In regards to everyone here talking about unity crashing:
xmonad+debian squeeze
My laptop has been up/plugged in for 72 days and I have no issues whatsoever ;) Sometimes stable is a good thing.
Ubuntu on tablets
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#192I'm a heavy Ubuntu user and what I want to know is can it run all the existing Ubuntu/Linux apps? Also what is the multitasking model? I can't imagine full desktop multitasking would work on a tablet. That would kill the battery.
Yes, it can run all of the standard desktop apps. The video talks about adding a keyboard and mouse and using it like a desktop. I don't think it mentions whether it can run those apps while being a tablet , though. It's not clear if it'll let you do that or not. (I would guess it will, or at least it will if GTK and Qt add support for whatever windowing system this uses.)
"The video talks about adding a keyboard and mouse and using it like a desktop"
A mouse and a keyboard doesn't mean it can run anything. I can use a mouse and keyboard with Android currently and it still won't support my development environments. Heck Android doesn't even fully support its own development environment.
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#193Heres why this is awesome: - The name Unity finally makes perfect sense - Phone can expand into a tablet can expand into a desktop - larger form factor can run smaller form factor apps - app switcher is slick - Canonical finally learned how to use all the bull shit motivational words that apple uses to inspire people - OS level tie ins to social services - Still open source I'm excited to use it, and I'm excited to h…
>Phone can expand into a tablet can expand into a desktop
I wonder how this will play out in the light of what KDE's Aaron Seigo has said recently [1]:
"Unity currently does not use QML at all; Ubuntu Phone is pure QML. So, no, it is not the same code, it is not the sort of seamless cross-device technology bridge that they are purporting."
[1] https://plus.google.com/107555540696571114069/posts/HSL2C21D...
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are vast portions of the workforce for whom productivity does not depend on getting stuff out of ones brain and into the computer, like it does for us. For lots of people, primarily managers, productivity involves getting stuff out of the computer and into the brain. Touch interfaces are very productive for these kinds of tasks. Typically these people are the ones holding the purse strings, so targeting them is…
Really? So they don't need to produce lots of documents, presentations, spreadsheets and emails?
No. Managers have other people do it for them.
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#195This might be only tangentially relevant but I never took to liking the Ubuntu's font. I would much rather Segoe UI (regular, not Lite) or even Google's Roboto over Ubuntu's font.
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#196In regards to everyone here talking about unity crashing: xmonad+debian squeeze My laptop has been up/plugged in for 72 days and I have no issues whatsoever ;) Sometimes stable is a good thing.
i3 + debian stable
Debian supremacy.
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#197They learnt everything from others by launching late, but added most of the good design patterns. Great work all together. Worth mentioning, Ubuntu is emerging as perfect web platform with tight integration with web-services. "And now web applications are first class citizens too, wow. I was waiting for this to happen fast." At this stage they need: 1. More Partners. They must have strong tie-ups with OEM partners, w…
2. The apps will remain compatible, just like on Android, but I fear they will give too much control over to carriers. From what I understand they want to give "total branding power" over a device to carriers. So we'll see how they go about that without pissing off the user. If it's subtle enough it might work. But I still hate the idea of giving even more power (again) to the carriers. The carriers should be powerle…
Isn't Android basically Linux? Android looks pretty good (definitely so, as of late).
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
When Unity came out, I reverted to gnome-classic for a while and tried Cinnamon, but found it to be the least stable - my system would occasionally freeze. Now I'm on Unity. It has improved to the point that it meets my needs (granted, I've only got one or two monitors running at a time) and stays out of the way. (I've got Docky running, which I find makes it easier to switch between applications.) I have also come t…
I have to use Ubuntu at work, and Unity took a lot of customization to be workable. Compiz regularly crashes, but thankfully it automatically restarts. Now I don't need to panic when the whole screen stops updating. The "snap" window dragging feature is broken in the presence of multiple monitors; as you drag the mouse across the monitor boundary, the mouse pointer becomes momentarily disconnected from the window loc…
>Linux is completely inappropriate for the desktop, unless you are so inept you only use a browser (get an ipad instead), or you are sufficiently skilled you think nothing of switching window managers
I see how frustrating your experience with Unity was, and it certainly echoes my own, but does it warrant such a conclusion about Linux in general? For one thing, there are alternatives to Ubuntu on the desktop. For new users who are not completely helpless with computers Linux Mint LTS with MATE is likely a better choice than Ubuntu. MATE is very Windows-like; there's a lot that can be configured through the GUI in that DE and, FWIW, I have had a good amount of success converting Windows users to it.
As for those who are "so inept [they] only use a browser", well, not all of such users can afford an iPad, especially not in those parts of the world where they have both significantly higher prices on iPads and a lower average income than the US (e.g., Eastern Europe), and even Ubuntu with Unity delivers great value to them. It's an application that's not to be taken lightly, either.
Finally, Ubuntu makes it relatively easy to switch your the desktop environment. I admit I haven't seen any usability studies nor have I seen someone try to do it but I imagine a motivated middle-level user with sudo rights should be able to follow a tutorial on YouTube [1] on how to replace Unity with Cinnamon or MATE even if something more advanced replacing Ubuntu with Linux Mint is beyond him or her.
[1] Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJYiPFodlg and many others.
Edit: If you have access to gcc/g++ at work but not sudo rights (which is a very crappy situation to be in indeed) you can try to compile a different WM/DE in a local directory for your use and then create an ~/.xsession file to start it.
You must have done this already but for the benefit of whoever else might struggling with overlay scrollbars I'll note that you can disable them by putting
export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0
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#199I still don't understand the tablet form factor. I concluded that it's not for me some time ago, but am waiting for the general population to come around to one glaring flaw: you have to hold it. For me, it doesn't matter how light a tablet is. A five pound laptop will always feel lighter since it will effectively weigh nothing because it's always on some kind of platform during use, either my lap or a flat desk/tabl…
"I still don't understand the tablet form factor. I concluded that it's not for me some time ago, but am waiting for the general population to come around to one glaring flaw: you have to hold it."
What you have obliquely hit upon is what makes tablets destined to be the center of workplace computing. You CAN hold it, like a notebook or sheaf of paper. You can walk around with. You can also lay it on a table and type on it, or use a keyboard with it for sustained typing for most office tasks.
The deskbound will be left behind when everyone else is walking around, and will suffer tribulations.
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#200I'm a heavy Ubuntu user and what I want to know is can it run all the existing Ubuntu/Linux apps? Also what is the multitasking model? I can't imagine full desktop multitasking would work on a tablet. That would kill the battery.
Yes, it can run all of the standard desktop apps. The video talks about adding a keyboard and mouse and using it like a desktop. I don't think it mentions whether it can run those apps while being a tablet , though. It's not clear if it'll let you do that or not. (I would guess it will, or at least it will if GTK and Qt add support for whatever windowing system this uses.)
No! There are now Ubuntu Store apps (they used to be called "Disco" apps but they had to stop using that name). Ubuntu Store apps have to use a new L&F and can't use inter-process communications and have to be vetted by Canonical.
Kidding! I'm kidding! Put the pitchfork down!