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Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by vacri »

pekk wrote: post #148
null_ptr wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What simple things was Cinammon lacking? I actualy enjoy using it more than any other DE I ever used. It keeps the traditional things I want and has a clean modern feel, and is easy to customize without overwhelming you with choices.

You are fully entitled to use whatever you want and enjoy it. However, the interface design of Windows 98 is 15 years away from being "modern." The best way you can sell this kind of design is to call it timeless, or say that one shouldn't fix what isn't broken.

There is absolutely nothing of content in your comment, it's all empty hand-waving. Why not specify something as the parent comment asked?

I mean, the GP said that cinnamon was too simple and immature, and when asked why, your response is that this design is, essentially, overly mature.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by vacri »

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #130
rufugee wrote: post #21

As much as it pains me to admit it, I'm now using Cinnamon as a desktop environment. I really, really wanted Unity to work, but I've had continued performance problems which make it ultimately unusable for me. I understand Ubuntu's need to turn a profit, but I really wish they'd focus on making Unity stable and performant before chasing down these other opportunities... Disclaimer: I run three monitors, so I'm probab…

When Unity came out, I reverted to gnome-classic for a while and tried Cinnamon, but found it to be the least stable - my system would occasionally freeze. Now I'm on Unity. It has improved to the point that it meets my needs (granted, I've only got one or two monitors running at a time) and stays out of the way. (I've got Docky running, which I find makes it easier to switch between applications.) I have also come t…

Like Unity, Cinnamon has had a lot of work done since Unity came out. Judging either of today's offerings based on experiences from when Unity was whelped isn't doing anyone any favours.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by mtgx »

emehrkay wrote: post #145
newishuser wrote: post #139

Heres why this is awesome: - The name Unity finally makes perfect sense - Phone can expand into a tablet can expand into a desktop - larger form factor can run smaller form factor apps - app switcher is slick - Canonical finally learned how to use all the bull shit motivational words that apple uses to inspire people - OS level tie ins to social services - Still open source I'm excited to use it, and I'm excited to h…

I love the transformations that the OS goes through based on device, very much like responsive web design. My favorite feature is running phone apps on the side with the Windows8-like split view, great idea. I wonder how that translates to portrait.

I still think Samsung has the best idea for such multi-tasking with "Dual-View":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ3krff1JCE&feature=yout...

It's not limited to only one column, like in Ubuntu and Windows 8, it splits the apps even, so you can use them fully, and you can even expand or contract one over the other. I think that's a much better implementation.

But Ubuntu's idea for using the phone apps on the side is not too bad either, but that secondary app seems to be meant more as a "companion" app rather than another full app that you want to use in the same time, and give it equal share of the screen (especially on larger screens).

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by itry »

Nobody mentions root access. Do I get it by default? This would be the only differentiating factor for me.

For example, I hate it that I cannot edit /etc/hosts on my iOS devices.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by vacri »

forgottenpaswrd wrote: post #169
bitsoda wrote: post #42

I still don't understand the tablet form factor. I concluded that it's not for me some time ago, but am waiting for the general population to come around to one glaring flaw: you have to hold it. For me, it doesn't matter how light a tablet is. A five pound laptop will always feel lighter since it will effectively weigh nothing because it's always on some kind of platform during use, either my lap or a flat desk/tabl…

I still don't understand the laptop factor. You are supposed to stay in the same place because the computer can't move, you can't either. Because the computer can't jump, you can't jump. I use to go outside and work on the go on the field or lab, standing up, with a laptop you must sit down for working, non sense for me(we are bipeds, we designed for standing up a big part of the time, when we sit our bodies metaboli…

we are bipeds, we designed for standing up a big part of the time

Do you eschew clothes, eat only raw foods, sleep outside, and run to work (on bare feet) each day?

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by networked »

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #127

> Ubuntu is predicted to ship on almost 10% of the world’s new branded PCs by 2014 I'm interested to hear more about this.

This stood out to me, too. Apparently [1] this is what their own internal estimate is.

On an semi-unrelated note, the effect the dynamic controls in some of the mock-ups have is interesting to observe. While I liked how play controls came up when I moved my mouse cursor over the image of the tablet playing a video (http://i50.tinypic.com/5b1bms.png) it almost made me feel disappointed when I clicked on "play" and nothing happened. I wonder if as a user persuasion tool this is better or worse than a static image.

Edit: it is also strange how they show mouse over effects in a mock up of a touch interface.

[1] http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/02/canonical-idUSnBw1... ("Canonical estimates that...")

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by vacri »

andmarios wrote: post #51

I am a bit tired of how much Ubuntu gets promoted compared to other Linux based solutions. Here is a video of KDE's Plasma Active running on a Nexus 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7isMAmwW0 It is a real use video, there aren't any fancy photos, there isn't any CG in the video in contrast with Canonical's page. Plasma Active is being actively developed for about 2 years now and KDE 4 was developed from the ground…

KDE is a DE. Ubuntu is a platform. They are not the same thing.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by hollerith »

kaolinite wrote: post #13

Yet another announcement by Canonical that isn't backed by a "Buy" button. I understand that it's not exactly easy for them, but it's becoming a bit boring how they keep announcing new "products" with no way of actually purchasing them. Couldn't they have waited for a year or so for this to be ready to ship and then launch it? At the very least it'd be good to have "Available to buy in July, 2013" or whatever.

>Yet another announcement by Canonical that isn't backed by a "Buy" button.

-- nor a "Download" button for hackers wanting to install an alpha version on their Nexus tablet.

I looked unsucessfully for a Download button on the OP, the "developer" page that it links to and http://www.ubuntu.com/download.

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