On another note, its refreshing to see compass https://github.com/chriseppstein/compass now under relative active development after months of stagnation.
Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
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Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#62Trying not to be excessively critical as building a framework like this is a big undertaking, but the aesthetics are bad, it doesn't differentiate itself, and it managed to crashed my browser. All very troubling, especially for a front-end framework.
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#63This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.
The javascript been written properly? https://github.com/groundworkcss/groundwork/blob/master/js/g... (joke, joke! Well, no smoke without fire...)
I'm really hoping the irony of linking to a CoffeeScript-generated JavaScript file and using it as an example of properly-written JavaScript was at least part of the joke here.
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#64This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.
What's really hard for new frameworks to overcome is the huge community that Bootstrap has created, checkout the big badass list of Bootstrap resources:
http://www.bootstraphero.com/the-big-badass-list-of-twitter-...
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#65Well I found this framework quite interesting, I don't want Bootstrap's visuals and baggage so I found this very appealing, the grid system is robust and appears to solve my problem which Bootstrap doesn't easily. As for the visuals, well I'm of the opinion that they don't need to look good to be good. Visuals designers usually aren't good at making generic frameworks, it is more of a programmer's undertaking to dist…
Because I'm also shopping-around: what are your thoughts on Foundation? What's your problem that Bootstrap doesn't solve?
I need to actually reposition my grid elements when breakpoints happen, not just resize or reflow them. The reordering seems promising (so I can alter the flow by appending css classes instead of needing to mess with html structure).
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#66This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.
more like instead of Foundation since it uses Compass+Sass. I just glanced at it and it seems extremely close to Foundation, it even uses orbit. I like the tooltips and the forms, the documentation is actually better than the Foundation one. I don't particularly like the grid system as it works in ratio (feels like you have to do more math).
I use Foundation without Compass+Sass. I don't feel it's a vital part of the project.
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#67This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.
This uses Sass, Bootstrap uses Less.
Is that really that big of a difference? Besides, I thought most people used Bootstrap without Less. At least I do.
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#68Site doesn't even scroll properly on an iPad, everything off-screen seems simply cut off.
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#69i like the look, seemed to work fine on my laptop. will try on a few more devices
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scrolling up and down the page feels a little laggy too (Chrome 24, Win7). Is that a drawback of how the 'responsiveness' is coded?
Going to the URL of the iframe directly is much faster for me: http://groundwork.sidereel.com/home.html
That completely made the difference, they should probably consider changing that.