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What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Interesting. Could you provide a link to your website or book? Also, what do you think of "slow" exercises/arts like yoga, taichi etc in general? Obviously you don't do this (as you are in to HIIT), just curious to know your thoughts though.

I do Yoga. Love it. Feel much better weight lifting being flexible!

oh okay, thank you for answering :) Do you mind providing links to your books? Thanks.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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There are plenty of ways to lose weight. Cutting calories is a very effective way of losing weight. This doesn't discount the fact that cutting carbs also works. In my case, it has been working spectacularly. I believe that I don't need to cut calories or cut the amount of food I eat, and still lose weight, by choosing food that is very low in carbs. I limit myself to 1 granola bar per day, plus whatever incidental a…

Cutting calories is the only way to lose weight. Cutting carbs typically means people end up eating less calories, because protein is more satiating. "Eating the same diet, just a lot less carbs" If you're eating less carbs, that's 4 calories less for every grab of carbs you've cut out. If previously you were eating around 200g of carbs everyday (probably on the low end, honestly) you've now removed around 800 calori…

The number of calories you burn isn't just a minor detail you can brush away.

Some sources of energy turn preferentially into fat, others promote a higher burning base metabolism. And when you say weight, you're ignoring other factors like muscle mass, water retention, others, that aren't really what we mean when we say lose weight. (Although incidentally, cutting carbs decreases water retention which is one very valid counter to the low-carb weight loss claims.)

Ignoring the very direct counter-statement by OP that he increased his caloric intake and still found success cannot be dismissed.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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As someone who's successfully lost a lot of weight on a low carb / no grain diet, this chart irks me. That a handful of almonds has the same calories as a certain amount of Captain Crunch is irrelevant. The latter will quickly convert to glucose in your body, however, (unlike almonds) and that will make a huge difference in your satiety levels, insulin response (Hello, Metabolic Syndrome!), etc... [1] Some good resou…

You're falling into the standard weight loss trap... "It's too hard, it's too complicated, I'll never lose weight". For the vast majority of people that need to lose weight, keeping it simple is the best thing. Goal: Eat less calories than you use each day. (fullstop!) Once they've lost a chunk of weight, they can start dialing it in with complicated stuff about carbs vs. fat vs. protein etc, etc, etc,

Eat less calories than you use each day. (fullstop!)

While true, that statement is useless. It doesn't take into account the effect insulin has on the ability one has to actually take in those fewer calories. It also doesn't take into account metabolic pathways that allow one to eat more of certain kinds of foods than others.

The scientific literature is pretty clear (once you filter out the government propaganda that caused 300 million people to be unwitting participants in a dietetic experiment):

If you[1] want to loose weight and be healthier, screw calories and worry about insulin (full stop!)

There is nothing that more closely predicts insulin reaction than the number of carbs you are eating. Cut out all the simple carbs (which includes the bags of sugar we've cultivated as most fruit) and focus on fats, protein and very complex carbs and you will lose weight. More importantly, nothing has been shown to affect metabolic disorder[2] as positively.

I look at it like this: what do we use to fatten cattle up before we slaughter them? It's corn. Now look at every nutrition label to see what is in it. Is it surprising we are fat, too?

1. The body is incredibly complex. There are people who will respond better on other diets. So take any general study with a grain of salt and experiment on yourself to find what works!

2. High blood pressure, high cholesterol, heat disease, hypoglycemia, type 2 diabetes, gout, and others have all been lumped together into a disorder that strongly appears to be the result of hyperinsulenimia (eg too much insulin in the blood stream).

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of ways to lose weight. Cutting calories is a very effective way of losing weight. This doesn't discount the fact that cutting carbs also works. In my case, it has been working spectacularly. I believe that I don't need to cut calories or cut the amount of food I eat, and still lose weight, by choosing food that is very low in carbs. I limit myself to 1 granola bar per day, plus whatever incidental a…

Cutting calories is the only way to lose weight. Cutting carbs typically means people end up eating less calories, because protein is more satiating. "Eating the same diet, just a lot less carbs" If you're eating less carbs, that's 4 calories less for every grab of carbs you've cut out. If previously you were eating around 200g of carbs everyday (probably on the low end, honestly) you've now removed around 800 calori…

There are other ways to lose weight. Such as swallowing tape worms, taking a laxative with every meal, using meth, moving to the moon... The statement "Cutting calories is the only way to lose weight" is a gross oversimplification and provably false.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Whenever I see a thread like this pop up on HN, I feel a need to reply and dispel some myths. I'm going to do my best to provide a quick, yet thorough summary. I hope this helps. Who am I? I'm a techie and a fitness nut. I've played high level basketball, amateur football, rugby, aussie rules football. I've done some triathlons (not my forte), a couple ultra races (hate them, learned a lot about myself). My current a…

What are your lifts?

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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As someone who's successfully lost a lot of weight on a low carb / no grain diet, this chart irks me. That a handful of almonds has the same calories as a certain amount of Captain Crunch is irrelevant. The latter will quickly convert to glucose in your body, however, (unlike almonds) and that will make a huge difference in your satiety levels, insulin response (Hello, Metabolic Syndrome!), etc... [1] Some good resou…

As someone who has lost a lot of weight on a diet that is actually healthy as opposed to a hack, I protest your protest. I eat mostly the things at the top of the chart (though not the soda/milk/meat) and lost about 4 lbs a week until I leveled out at a normal weight without compromising my nutrition. [1] Some good resources: http://www.drfuhrman.com/shop/ETLBook.aspx [1] That said, we both agree that that kind of su…

Can you explain why you think fat is bad for you

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Whenever I see a thread like this pop up on HN, I feel a need to reply and dispel some myths. I'm going to do my best to provide a quick, yet thorough summary. I hope this helps. Who am I? I'm a techie and a fitness nut. I've played high level basketball, amateur football, rugby, aussie rules football. I've done some triathlons (not my forte), a couple ultra races (hate them, learned a lot about myself). My current a…

What are your lifts?

Do you mean what I recommend?

For absolute beginners, Starting Strength or Stronglifts is great.

In the book I recommend something similar, but a bit more custom for muscle building. Basically, stick to the big four (deadlifts, squats, bench press and overhead press), throw in some accessory work for lagging bodyparts and problem areas. It'll do wonders.

For more advanced people, same as above, but with more volume and tension training.

I like people to follow this progression when weight training:

Focus on strength first, volume second and tension third. Seems the best recipe for putting on muscle fast.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

#178
post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're falling into the standard weight loss trap... "It's too hard, it's too complicated, I'll never lose weight". For the vast majority of people that need to lose weight, keeping it simple is the best thing. Goal: Eat less calories than you use each day. (fullstop!) Once they've lost a chunk of weight, they can start dialing it in with complicated stuff about carbs vs. fat vs. protein etc, etc, etc,

Eat less calories than you use each day. (fullstop!) While true, that statement is useless. It doesn't take into account the effect insulin has on the ability one has to actually take in those fewer calories. It also doesn't take into account metabolic pathways that allow one to eat more of certain kinds of foods than others. The scientific literature is pretty clear (once you filter out the government propaganda tha…

You're still making it way too complicated.

If I put 10 gallons into my tank every day, but use 11 gallons daily.. I'm "using up" gas. That's all that matters.

Of course, there are many, many, many tweaks to be made, but for the majority of people, who need to lose a massive amount of weight, if they eat less calories than they use, they will lose weight. End.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cutting calories is the only way to lose weight. Cutting carbs typically means people end up eating less calories, because protein is more satiating. "Eating the same diet, just a lot less carbs" If you're eating less carbs, that's 4 calories less for every grab of carbs you've cut out. If previously you were eating around 200g of carbs everyday (probably on the low end, honestly) you've now removed around 800 calori…

There are other ways to lose weight. Such as swallowing tape worms, taking a laxative with every meal, using meth, moving to the moon... The statement "Cutting calories is the only way to lose weight" is a gross oversimplification and provably false.

I don't know why this comment was downvoted. It gets to the heart of the "calorie balance" oversimplification.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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post #95

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Actually it's 1-2g of protein per kg of weight, not lb. Unless you're on anabolic steroids or are on a protein sparing modified fast (PSMF) 1.5g of protein per lb isn't going to help you gain or retain more muscle. Source: A week ago I read through all studies I could find on pubmed about optimal protein intake for muscle gain.

It's 1g per lb of lean weight. That would be for a beginner, trained athletes aren't going to be putting on so much muscle so won't need so much protein. Correct on the steroids and fasting though.

Even 1/g per pound is too much. A perfectly optimal level for bodybuilders is around .82g per pound. One can extrapolate from there for those not seeking hypertrophy. - http://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-...
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