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Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Scrolling up and down the page feels a little laggy too (Chrome 24, Win7). Is that a drawback of how the 'responsiveness' is coded?

Going to the URL of the iframe directly is much faster for me: http://groundwork.sidereel.com/home.html

Indeed, went from unusable to smooth on a nexus 7

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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What I would like to see is an html/css/js framework like bootstrap or groundwork that is completely generic, with no styling at all; just a wireframe that lays everything out as it should. Then provide the ability to customize the look either manually or by some gui on the web. Otherwise you get a raft of "bootstrap" sites out there that all look the same unless a front-end dev goes through the painstaking process o…

This is exactly why I switched to Skeleton (http://www.getskeleton.com/). It's a few style sheets which are completely stripped down. It gives you a grid and a set of responsive media queries. Oh sure, there's some very basic styles for buttons and forms, but I ripped those out so it's just the essentials. Now, it just has what you need without bug all to get in your way.

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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May be we need a new layer: a lib to handle different frameworks! like Haxe but for HTML.

In our current project instead of putting the framework's html/css into our codebase I'm outputting as bare bones html as I can with semantic class names on everything and then mapping those classes to the framework using sass mixins/extends/includes. To make a RWD site I'm having to rewrite a lot of the framework to be mixins instead of classes so that I can use them in @media as SASS doesn't allow @extend in @media…

> What I'd find really useful would be a framework thats entirely built from mixins/partials and outputs no css until you create your own classes that use them.

Here's exactly what you're looking for:

* Bourbon: A mixin library for Sass (http://bourbon.io/docs/) * Neat: A semantic grid framework built on top of Sass and Bourbon (http://neat.bourbon.io/)

And, if you use LESS, you have these options:

* LESS Elements: Mixins library for LESS (http://lesselements.com/) * Semantic.gs: Semantic CSS grid system for LESS (http://semantic.gs/)

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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my biggest problem with all of these framework is using them on an existing site. it would be great if all of them wrapped there styles in a parent class that way it wouldn't breaking existing styling.

I totally agree. That's why I use these:

* Bourbon: A mixin library for Sass (http://bourbon.io/docs/) * Neat: A semantic grid framework built on top of Sass and Bourbon (http://neat.bourbon.io/)

And for the LESS junkies out there: * LESS Elements: Mixins library for LESS (http://lesselements.com/) * Semantic.gs: Semantic CSS grid system for LESS (http://semantic.gs/)

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.

May be we need a new layer: a lib to handle different frameworks! like Haxe but for HTML.

Have you seen sgf4js? (simple grid facade for javascript)

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Well I found this framework quite interesting, I don't want Bootstrap's visuals and baggage so I found this very appealing, the grid system is robust and appears to solve my problem which Bootstrap doesn't easily. As for the visuals, well I'm of the opinion that they don't need to look good to be good. Visuals designers usually aren't good at making generic frameworks, it is more of a programmer's undertaking to dist…

Because I'm also shopping-around: what are your thoughts on Foundation? What's your problem that Bootstrap doesn't solve?

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.

more like instead of Foundation since it uses Compass+Sass.

I just glanced at it and it seems extremely close to Foundation, it even uses orbit. I like the tooltips and the forms, the documentation is actually better than the Foundation one. I don't particularly like the grid system as it works in ratio (feels like you have to do more math).

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Using Safari 6.0.2, clicking on the first input on this page crashes Safari with a speed and efficiency that can only be admired. http://groundwork.sidereel.com/?url=tooltips-js I wish Safari could shut down that quickly when I manually quit. No problem with Chrome.

Too bad... seems they've fixed it ;P.

yep, still there.
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