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Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by rufugee »

endtime wrote: post #62
kombine wrote: post #54

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I tried to use Cinnamon and it was a very poor experience. It is very immature, simple things that are the norm on existing desktop environments are not there. I can't say I use Unity too much, I'm more of a KDE user, but Unity is a lot more stable.

When I used Unity at work, it would literally freeze every few days, and I'd have to ssh in from another machine and restart it. Tried Gnome 3 for a while but eventually gave up and went with Cinnamon.

Same for me re: Unity. On Gnome 3, it was a 50/50 chance that the screensaver would be frozen when I returned to work the next morning. Sometimes dropping to a console and killing the screensaver process would work, but a lot of the time it required a full restart of gdm.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

#92

Post by freehunter »

trumbitta2 wrote: post #52

I use unity for the fullscreen windows / mac-like menus. In fact, I: - use gnome-do instead of unity dash - use docky in panel mode as my beloved taskbar - keep the horrible unity sidebar well hidden on the left And I am happy so far.

Yeah this thread is totally not about Ubuntu or Unity on the desktop.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

#93

Post by fumar »

andmarios wrote: post #83
JosephRedfern wrote: post #63

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It doesn't seem anywhere near as slick as Ubuntu's offerings, though - and I think for a portable device like a tablet, that is very important.

When it comes to notifications, easy sharing and usability features in general, it has them all and they are touch optimized. I guess you mean that it doesn't look like Android or iOS. This can be changed easily through a theme. Conveniently you can download new themes from the theme settings screen, you don't need extra software nor you have to search in random places. On the other hand, certain programs, like its t…

>I don't think there is a reason to hide that a tablet device is a computer in different form and when you need it, it can perform as thus

Sort of like the Surface tablets...

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by azakai »

sultezdukes wrote: post #90
azakai wrote: post #75

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It would make sense for Nokia to not put all its eggs in one basket. Windows is not doing well on mobile devices, so Nokia investing in other options would be the safe thing to do.

And you think that Ubuntu on mobile devices is going to do any better? Nokia screwed up, but diverting resources to an even more miniscule market is even crazier.

It is not miniscule, it is 0% right now ;) But again, the question is of putting all the eggs in one basket or not. Ubuntu and other non-windows mobile OSes each have different approaches, hard to say which will succeed. It's foolish to bet on just one if you are as big as Nokia.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

#95

Post by hamax »

rufugee wrote: post #21

As much as it pains me to admit it, I'm now using Cinnamon as a desktop environment. I really, really wanted Unity to work, but I've had continued performance problems which make it ultimately unusable for me. I understand Ubuntu's need to turn a profit, but I really wish they'd focus on making Unity stable and performant before chasing down these other opportunities... Disclaimer: I run three monitors, so I'm probab…

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Re: Ubuntu on tablets

#97

Post by dreen »

Most people installed Ubuntu because they could do it on their PC without buying anything. Can I do the same with a semi-old tablet?

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

#98

Post by fusiongyro »

donniezazen wrote: post #41
kaolinite wrote: post #13

Yet another announcement by Canonical that isn't backed by a "Buy" button. I understand that it's not exactly easy for them, but it's becoming a bit boring how they keep announcing new "products" with no way of actually purchasing them. Couldn't they have waited for a year or so for this to be ready to ship and then launch it? At the very least it'd be good to have "Available to buy in July, 2013" or whatever.

It's been picked by all major media outlets. Canonical is trying to create a buzz so major vendors start paying attention to it. I think they have been really successful in doing that. If Ubuntu comes with 10 basic apps that I use let's say Chrome browser and an ePUB reader. I would totally switch.

Why should major vendors take this more seriously than consumers? It's not like they can buy the product either. If I were Google or Apple, I'd be a lot more worried about a cool Kickstarter than a vaporous brochure site. Three kids with passion trying to get funding are worth more to me than a dozen graphic artists at Canonical with no idea how electricity works. I'm happy for them to prove me wrong, but this is what, the third or fourth thing they've "announced" with absolutely no idea how they're going to produce? Saying "I don't know how to build this, but I intend to" is a lot better than "If you call me with hardware, I'd love to art direct you." Why would anybody capable of manufacturing a device bother calling them rather than just making a shitty Android device on their own?

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by fusiongyro »

marcoceppi wrote: post #30
kaolinite wrote: post #23

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Then why not wait a week and announce it then?

Sorry, they're releasing images in two days. Seriously, though! Not everything has to be instant. They're putting themselves out to gauge interest and probably lure OEM vendors to their booth at MWC.

"and probably lure OEM vendors to their booth at MWC"

This is the whole problem, isn't it? When Google wants to make a device, they call up Asus or whomever and have it made. When Apple wants to make a device, they hire folks to do it, and those folks call the manufacturers for the parts. Why does Canonical expect the OEM to call them first on the basis of pretty mockups?

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Post by meztez »

levesque wrote: post #35
rufugee wrote: post #21

As much as it pains me to admit it, I'm now using Cinnamon as a desktop environment. I really, really wanted Unity to work, but I've had continued performance problems which make it ultimately unusable for me. I understand Ubuntu's need to turn a profit, but I really wish they'd focus on making Unity stable and performant before chasing down these other opportunities... Disclaimer: I run three monitors, so I'm probab…

I find that Unity feels sluggish and inelegant, performance wise. There is always a slight delay when I open the dash, and I generally dislike it's behavior. However, I stay with it because I dislike the alternatives, so no point switching for me. I think this is good news for Unity on the desktop because it means they will be tweaking the hell out of it for performance. I read that it's already better in 13.04, and…

Some of you might have had bad experiences with Unity. I had some too, when it launched. But as it stands now it's integrated in my workflow and it's much faster/easier than anything I've experienced so far with Windows 7.

I think for a lot of people that don't do much on a computer, Unity/Ubuntu makes way more sense than it's iOS and Win counterpart. It's cleaner, there is less "clutter" on the screen.

Even from a tweaker/hacker perspective, when you are not working/coding and just want to relax and watch some content, Unity does the job pretty well.

I prefer their vision of the post-PC era than what Win/iOS propose. At least it's an open platform and it integrates fluidly in your activity flow.

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