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Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by Shivetya »

kjackson2012 wrote: post #101
msluyter wrote: post #37

As someone who's successfully lost a lot of weight on a low carb / no grain diet, this chart irks me. That a handful of almonds has the same calories as a certain amount of Captain Crunch is irrelevant. The latter will quickly convert to glucose in your body, however, (unlike almonds) and that will make a huge difference in your satiety levels, insulin response (Hello, Metabolic Syndrome!), etc... [1] Some good resou…

I'm currently on a low-carb diet. Since June 2012, I've been tracking my weight almost daily, the food I ate, and the amount of times I've worked out. I drastically increased my workouts from October to December, working out almost 4-5 times per week, and I gained 10 lbs. This was accompanied by a change in diet, since my company started offering free lunches. In January, I went with low-carb (less than 30g of carbs…

anecdotal evidence I will add, I lost 30 pounds from February to July last year with a break fast that was either 2 donuts or bagels from Dunkin Donuts along with their large coffee and cream.

I simply counted calories and worked out. I aimed for 1600-2000 a day and the weight just came off. One snack I had to drop, and mean I had to because it was a binge type snack, was nuts. The calories I was consuming were silly. When I measured out my quarter cup (200 calorie average) it was shocking.

My belief, the majority of people have no clue how many calories they truly consume and even a simple picture chart like this one may be the hint they need.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by smackfu »

msluyter wrote: post #37

As someone who's successfully lost a lot of weight on a low carb / no grain diet, this chart irks me. That a handful of almonds has the same calories as a certain amount of Captain Crunch is irrelevant. The latter will quickly convert to glucose in your body, however, (unlike almonds) and that will make a huge difference in your satiety levels, insulin response (Hello, Metabolic Syndrome!), etc... [1] Some good resou…

To be honest, everyone thinks the diet that worked for them is great, and all the other ones are bullshit.

Most people will lose weight on any restrictive diet they stick to. Most people can't stick to a diet.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by BSousa »

mistercow wrote: post #108
msluyter wrote: post #37

As someone who's successfully lost a lot of weight on a low carb / no grain diet, this chart irks me. That a handful of almonds has the same calories as a certain amount of Captain Crunch is irrelevant. The latter will quickly convert to glucose in your body, however, (unlike almonds) and that will make a huge difference in your satiety levels, insulin response (Hello, Metabolic Syndrome!), etc... [1] Some good resou…

The main thing that's useful about low-carb diets is that foods high in protein and fat are filling. You don't need ketosis (which is probably a harmful medical condition) to lose weight, but if you get most of your calories from carbohydrates, you'll tend to have trouble feeling satisfied without going overboard on calories. So you're partially right about satiety levels, but in my experience eating something high i…

I had the opposite feeling.

In general, I try to eat lowish carbs (maybe 50-100g a day) avoiding mostly grain based products. When I was more seriously tracking what I ate and did a lot of weight lifting, I ended up eating a few more carbs (maybe around 200g) on training days. Basically high fat/low carb on non training days, moderate carb/low fat on training days. Protein remained the same.

The days I was more satisfied were the carb days. The problem was the next day. Whenever I ate a lot of carbs, the next day I would just feel hungry all the time even though all I ate was protein and fat. The days following not having carbs, even though I ate carbs, I rarely felt hungry.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by 38leinad »

lorenzfx wrote: post #40

I might be a nitpicker, but I really hate it when people say (or in this case write) "calorie" but mean "kilo calorie". There is a difference.

I have always asked myself why that is so? how did it happen that this "mistake" got into everyones mind? you don't say "meters" if you mean "kilometers"...

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by brown9-2 »

rb2k_ wrote: post #58
c1u wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almonds are mostly fat, and not very satiating either. I've done the paleo/lowcarb fad diets too. They just trick you into eating fewer calories by forbidding most of the food you ate before the diet. Not to mention some versions of these diets are based on incorrect understanding of human physiology. For example, despite what the paleotards will tell you, carbs are very rarely converted into body fat. But when you e…

> They just trick you into eating fewer calories by forbidding most of the food you ate before the diet. I eat more calories than before judging by the amounts of meat/butter/nuts that I eat. I lost 15 kilos in body weight accompanied by a 5% reduction in body fat (-> gained muscle). So at least on a personal level, I can really not confirm this. An interesting article backing the low-carb high-fat diets that has lin…

Are you also exercising more than before the diet? If so, it's an uneven comparison.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by kafkaesque »

rayiner wrote: post #100
c1u wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almonds are mostly fat, and not very satiating either. I've done the paleo/lowcarb fad diets too. They just trick you into eating fewer calories by forbidding most of the food you ate before the diet. Not to mention some versions of these diets are based on incorrect understanding of human physiology. For example, despite what the paleotards will tell you, carbs are very rarely converted into body fat. But when you e…

You can't underestimate the psychological importance of tricking yourself into eating fewer calories. Carbohydrates are very calorie dense, and high-carb foods are usually psychologically less satisfying than foods you would eat on a ketogenic diet. A plain bagel has about as many calories as a 7 oz new york strip. Which would you rather have for lunch?

It depends.

I'm assuming you are not a mid or long distance runner, though.

If you talk to many runners, myself included, we really do crave carbs. Because our bodies need it for the distance we're running.

As a mid-distance runner, proteins are good, but I use them up as energy very, very fast (even when I'm not running), so I get hungry faster if I only eat protein.

IMHO and from my personal experience, of course.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by brown9-2 »

TomGullen wrote: post #83
afterburner wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fad: An intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, esp. one that is short-lived; a craze. Just because the idea came from the prehistoric doesn't mean it can't be a fad.

It's not an idea, it actually happened. People actually ate paleo style for millions of years from necessity.

To be fair, it's something that we think happened based on the limited amount of awareness available to us thousands of years after the fact.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by kjackson2012 »

Shivetya wrote: post #131
kjackson2012 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm currently on a low-carb diet. Since June 2012, I've been tracking my weight almost daily, the food I ate, and the amount of times I've worked out. I drastically increased my workouts from October to December, working out almost 4-5 times per week, and I gained 10 lbs. This was accompanied by a change in diet, since my company started offering free lunches. In January, I went with low-carb (less than 30g of carbs…

anecdotal evidence I will add, I lost 30 pounds from February to July last year with a break fast that was either 2 donuts or bagels from Dunkin Donuts along with their large coffee and cream. I simply counted calories and worked out. I aimed for 1600-2000 a day and the weight just came off. One snack I had to drop, and mean I had to because it was a binge type snack, was nuts. The calories I was consuming were silly…

There are plenty of ways to lose weight. Cutting calories is a very effective way of losing weight.

This doesn't discount the fact that cutting carbs also works. In my case, it has been working spectacularly. I believe that I don't need to cut calories or cut the amount of food I eat, and still lose weight, by choosing food that is very low in carbs. I limit myself to 1 granola bar per day, plus whatever incidental amounts of carbs I eat through other means, and I've been able to lose a lot of weight in a short period of time. I don't overeat meat or fat, I eat the same diet, just a lot less carbs.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by smackfu »

pcorsaro wrote: post #105
sneak wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol paleo I've been losing weight lately without any fad diet. I just cut my caloric intake by 20% and boosted my caloric output by 20-30% with regular exercise.

I feel like any "diet" that is named is instantly called a fad, and that really bothers me. Paleo is more or less eating whole, unprocessed foods, with an emphasis on low sugar intake. What's so faddish about that?

It's popular right now because some dude wrote a book about it and goes around doing speaking engagements about it. In a year or two, the people who are doing it now will move on to whatever the new diet is. That's pretty much every single "fad diet" ever.

Re: What Does 200 Calories Look Like?

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Post by c1u »

a_c_s wrote: post #123
c1u wrote: post #109

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"calories without nutrients" does not makes sense at all. A spoonful of sugar contains 100% nutrients. That link is total nonsense. For example it claims pizza is empty calories, but bread, cheese, tomatoes, meat & veggies are not? It's ridiculous.

No, a spoonful of refined white sugar contains 100% calories. It does not contain any minerals, vitamins, protein, essential fatty acids, micronutrients or antioxidants, which in the context of this discussion, is what is meant by saying it has no nutrients.

There are only 4 macronutrients (foods metabolism can run on): carbs, fat, protein, & ethanol. So if you believe protein & fat are nutrients, then you must believe carbs are as well.
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