What I would like to see is an html/css/js framework like bootstrap or groundwork that is completely generic, with no styling at all; just a wireframe that lays everything out as it should. Then provide the ability to customize the look either manually or by some gui on the web. Otherwise you get a raft of "bootstrap" sites out there that all look the same unless a front-end dev goes through the painstaking process of overriding the default styles of the framework.
Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
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Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#42Parts of the site look a bit blurry on a retina :( That's really not the best first impression for this sort of site ...
I'm seeing that too.
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#43The on-page device width emulator is cool.
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#44What I would like to see is an html/css/js framework like bootstrap or groundwork that is completely generic, with no styling at all; just a wireframe that lays everything out as it should. Then provide the ability to customize the look either manually or by some gui on the web. Otherwise you get a raft of "bootstrap" sites out there that all look the same unless a front-end dev goes through the painstaking process o…
Agreed. I've mostly forgone using bootstrap-like foundations because of this issue. It's a lot easier to build something custom from scratch than to undo all the bootstrapped stuff. Maybe it gets you some pretty button styles off the starting block, but later when you really need to fine-tune your UX, it's hard to disentangle what you want from what's "in there". Plus, I find it a lot easier to create semantic markup when I can choose the class names and structure myself rather than using things like "col-256" which force you to create extraneous markup.
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#45Using Safari 6.0.2, clicking on the first input on this page crashes Safari with a speed and efficiency that can only be admired. http://groundwork.sidereel.com/?url=tooltips-js I wish Safari could shut down that quickly when I manually quit. No problem with Chrome.
Too bad... seems they've fixed it ;P.
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#46This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.
I think it's fairly obvious as to what the benefit is, considering how many times an app idea that's too "bootstrappy" gets railed on.
This seems like a decent alternative for out of the box design. Once/if this becomes popular then it too could become too standard- but for now, it's very different. That's good.
As far as design is concerned, I think more frameworks in the market is a good thing. The saturation could make the bad designers worse, but it gives good designers just more tools to explore with.
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#47Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#48Using Safari 6.0.2, clicking on the first input on this page crashes Safari with a speed and efficiency that can only be admired. http://groundwork.sidereel.com/?url=tooltips-js I wish Safari could shut down that quickly when I manually quit. No problem with Chrome.
Too bad... seems they've fixed it ;P.
Not for me!
Safari 6.0.2 (8536.26.17)
on OSX 10.8.2
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#49Using Safari 6.0.2, clicking on the first input on this page crashes Safari with a speed and efficiency that can only be admired. http://groundwork.sidereel.com/?url=tooltips-js I wish Safari could shut down that quickly when I manually quit. No problem with Chrome.
Too bad... seems they've fixed it ;P.
still there for me.
Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework
#50What I would like to see is an html/css/js framework like bootstrap or groundwork that is completely generic, with no styling at all; just a wireframe that lays everything out as it should. Then provide the ability to customize the look either manually or by some gui on the web. Otherwise you get a raft of "bootstrap" sites out there that all look the same unless a front-end dev goes through the painstaking process o…
I use a CSS grid framework called Neat (built on top of a Sass mixin library called Bourbon) to do exactly this. Keeps my markup semantic, and is very easy to implement.
Plus, Bourbon has an amazing selection of Sass mixins and functions that make building stylesheets a joy.
I couldn't imagine developing withouteother anymore :)