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Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by bigtones »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #107
dfc wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not familiar with "luvvie alert" ?

Imagine you are at a nice party in London. You are chatting to an interesting sounding person who turns out is an actor, and then you hear phrases like this "just one summer with the RSC back when I was younger". "Of course Johnny said, ... umm, Gielguld of course dahling, did you see him in the Tempest in 74? Wunderful" "I was saying to Sam just after that Quantum thing. You really should talk to Barbara about direc…

Well you learn something new every day. From your beautiful description I could picture this type of person exactly !

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by sjdhgvf »

dfc wrote: post #90
Udo wrote: post #75

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It's curious, isn't it, that we still have "Home" pages. For a while there, Google Reader was my starting point, but nowadays I find myself starting off from HN. This must be what Facebook feels like to normal people, but without the insidious stalking and the dreaded obligations that come from surveillance features like "X is online NOW, you have to interact with him/her!" and "X has seen this (but has neither liked…

Normal people? I just vomited a little. Thanks for ruining breakfast.

This is a very peculiar comment. What exactly in the word "normal" made you vomit - especially in the context used by the OP?

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by raldi »

JuDue wrote: post #45

Fast is one thing. BUT I'd much rather get rid of the "this link has expired" syndrome. Fast is only impressive if the results are modern.

The worst is when you write a big long comment, submit it, and get "this link has expired" -- then you hit back, and the textbox is empty.

This is particularly infuriating on a cellphone.

One quick fix: in the code that prints this message, check to see if the request was a comment-post action. If so, append, "...but for your convenience, here's the text you tried to post, so it's not lost forever: [...]"

(Just watch out for XSS!)

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by wittjeff »

Surio wrote: post #97
dfc wrote: post #89

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I am not familiar with "luvvie alert" ?

Oh British English, how much I love you..... Let me count the ways! [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Me_Count_the_Ways ] ;-) http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/luvvy http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Luvvies

It's interesting that none of those references refer to the Lovey Howell character in the 60s sitcom Gilligan's Island, which came first to mind for me when reading "luvvie alert". I suppose the character's name+personality is more of a blatant archetype than I (now 43) had realized as a child.

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by tingletech »

Udo wrote: post #103
dfc wrote: post #99

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I didn't choose your words.

No, but you did choose to interpret them in a totally different context, deliberately giving them a meaning that was clearly not part of my statement. Then you ignored, yet still replied to, my clarification. From my perspective this looks like either a huge misunderstanding or the definition of straw man rhetorics. And I have to say I don't get where your hostility comes from, but I neither recognize my message as i…

I think there is a strong argument to be made that the myth of normal is a socially counterproductive concept -- much as the myth of race. "normal people" maybe sounds sort of close to "those people" which is trigger language that suggests one might not value diversity or might not judge all people as individuals. When I read your comment, I translated it to "adult consumer internet user" but still could not really empathize with your point.

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by Udo »

tingletech wrote: post #125
Udo wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but you did choose to interpret them in a totally different context, deliberately giving them a meaning that was clearly not part of my statement. Then you ignored, yet still replied to, my clarification. From my perspective this looks like either a huge misunderstanding or the definition of straw man rhetorics. And I have to say I don't get where your hostility comes from, but I neither recognize my message as i…

I think there is a strong argument to be made that the myth of normal is a socially counterproductive concept -- much as the myth of race. "normal people" maybe sounds sort of close to "those people" which is trigger language that suggests one might not value diversity or might not judge all people as individuals. When I read your comment, I translated it to "adult consumer internet user" but still could not really e…

There is also a point where misguided attempts at political correctness drag you down the rabbit hole into a land of pure absurdity where instead of communicating, perpetually offended people are just engaged in a cyclical exchange of trite phrases.

I recognize it might well be an expression of a cultural divide between us, but this is the way I see it: HN is populated by a huge group of very diverse people. While we are diverse in pretty much every aspect, we are also bound together by being hackers and by living, at least party, in whatever hacker culture means for each us. That's not normal, it's a subculture. Almost every single human being is part of at least one subculture, and many are members of several, and there are millions of overlapping points that defy categorization. I cannot for the life of me figure out why it would be considered wrong to express this fact.

I can say for sure that I am not normal in many aspects, and then again I am normal in a lot of others. It's not somehow evil to recognize and talk about this. I think before dfc's comment, the number of people who misunderstood my original comment was very low, but my point is tainted now, subverted and burnt beyond recognition.

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by brudgers »

dfc wrote: post #115
Indyan wrote: post #83

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I know about hellbanned, but what are the royals and the plebians?

Royals and plebeians might be a little strong. YC folks have a slightly different interface. I think the main differences are that YC usernames show up in orange and there is a link along the top that displays the most recent submissions from YC folks/alumni.

"Royals" came to mind from FlameWarriors - though maybe my predispostion to think of PG as the Philosopher King of HN played a role. Anyway, "Plebians" was just pushing the political analogy a little further. I'll take your word about the differences in interface. I really was just conjecturing.

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/royals.htm

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Post by gbraad »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #68
gbog wrote: post #54

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When blocked browser behave differently. btw I'm in Beijing too, maybe we met in open parties?

This looked more like the block you get when you are on the site's black list. How many HN readers are in Beijing? In zhongguancun?

Chaoyang, but almost daily in zhongguancun. Mail me if you wanna meet up...

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by gbraad »

gbog wrote: post #54
gbraad wrote: post #13

phew Almost thought HN was blocked here in China...

When blocked browser behave differently. btw I'm in Beijing too, maybe we met in open parties?

Was on a tablet and page timed out... Didn't feel anything different than nytimes. And another page also didn't load as if new records were added.

But you could have easily met me. Mostly Linux events... mail me if you want to know

Re: So what happened to the HN server?

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Post by gbraad »

lucb1e wrote: post #20
gbraad wrote: post #13

phew Almost thought HN was blocked here in China...

There is no way to know if it's just you for whom it's blocked? Are services like isup.me/domain also blocked?

There s a plethora of checks I could do, and a lot of sites which check from different locations within china. The Internet is not same everywhere... But even some of these sites are blocked.

I did visit one of those quickly and the result was HN should be reachable... Hmmmm, therefore I. Checked with another age and this also timed out on my tablet. So either my ADSL or the server was problematic? I went for dinner and upon return it worked.

The check I used was http://www.blockedinchina.net/ First time I used this site...

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