Terms of Service; Didn't Read
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Terms of Service; Didn't Read
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#2Previous discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4350907
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#3Could installing this extension, and therefore being "aware" of the TOS of a given site, make you more liable in the event that you inadvertently violate it? I.e., does it make a TOS any more legally binding than it already is?
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#4Wanted to submit a review of WhatsApp's ToS (spoiler: they're horrible), but the method of communication is so untransparent... They use mailing lists apparently, and there are a dozen threads on Whatsapp's ToS already. I don't get it. This needs fixing if they want non-techies to contribute.
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#5Could installing this extension, and therefore being "aware" of the TOS of a given site, make you more liable in the event that you inadvertently violate it? I.e., does it make a TOS any more legally binding than it already is?
Good question. I'm tempted to just allow the courts to nullify TOS provisions. They periodically do, calling them "unconscionable."
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#6What's the point? Oh no, G or FB have evil terms. Where are you going to go now? They've got you. You agreed to the terms.
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#7The problem with terms of service is not that you can't read them or that you don't. The problem is that even if you do you're going to have to come back to reading them every couple of weeks in case they suddenly change and pull out the rug from under you.
Terms of service from the time of signing up should be binding and a service should be suspended until you accept new terms of service should they change. That way at least you'd have a loud and clear warning.
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#8The problem with terms of service is not that you can't read them or that you don't. The problem is that even if you do you're going to have to come back to reading them every couple of weeks in case they suddenly change and pull out the rug from under you. Terms of service from the time of signing up should be binding and a service should be suspended until you accept new terms of service should they change. That wa…
Most online games make you agree to an updated ToS (Apple do as well with the App Store) when they come out, not that anyone is actually going to spend hours reading 27 pages of legalese, but still.
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#9The killer of this site to me:
Nothing here should be considered legal advice. We express our opinion with no guarantee and we do not endorse any service in any way. Please refer to a qualified attorney for legal advice. Reading ToS;DR is in no way a replacement for reading the full terms to which you are bound. Disclosure: a list of donors and supporters is published. All legal information and Imprint.
----------- Get me a service with real lawyers writing up info and now you have something.
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#10Step 1: Write a .dll that interposes on common windows controls used to display EULA messages.
Step 2: Whenever this .dll sees common EULA agreements, it randomly modifies them before displaying them. Changes "SHALL" to "SHALL NOT", changes "GPL" to "Public Domain", changes "may not be duplicated" to "ok to post to piratebay", etc.
Step 3: Embed this DLL in a self-replicating, self-destroying virus/worm. It spreads, stays on a computer for a random amount of time, then erases all evidence it was ever there.
Step 4: "Your honor, there's no way of knowing what I agreed to, since there is no permanent record and the current license does not match what I remember. Perhaps I had the EULA-modifying virus at the time."