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Death in Singapore
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#3Wow... that is beyond weird. From what I've read I always thought Singapore was quite the corrupt-free police state.
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#4Wow... that is beyond weird. From what I've read I always thought Singapore was quite the corrupt-free police state.
It isn't a police state. And in recent years, it has been shown that it isn't corruption-free either.
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#5Wow... that is beyond weird. From what I've read I always thought Singapore was quite the corrupt-free police state.
It isn't a police state. And in recent years, it has been shown that it isn't corruption-free either.
http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2007/100537.htm
You get caned if you overstay your 90 days.
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#6Wow... that is beyond weird. From what I've read I always thought Singapore was quite the corrupt-free police state.
It isn't a police state. And in recent years, it has been shown that it isn't corruption-free either.
Really, then what exactly would you call it? You are essentially subject to all manner of ridiculous punishment for what would be considered minor or non-offenses in most free countries. Most of their elections are uncontested. You can dress it up because their streets are clean and safe, but it's still facism.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn't a police state. And in recent years, it has been shown that it isn't corruption-free either.
http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2007/100537.htm You get caned if you overstay your 90 days.
And? How does that have any bearing on the story at hand whatsoever?
As an entrepreneur who has seriously considered moving to singapore in the past I am much more interested in what can happen when you do obey their (quite reasonable) laws.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn't a police state. And in recent years, it has been shown that it isn't corruption-free either.
Really, then what exactly would you call it? You are essentially subject to all manner of ridiculous punishment for what would be considered minor or non-offenses in most free countries. Most of their elections are uncontested. You can dress it up because their streets are clean and safe, but it's still facism.
> You are essentially subject to all manner of ridiculous punishment for what would be considered minor or non-offenses in most free countries
Like vandalism and petty theft. And just look at how successful those "free countries" have been in addressing those categories of crime!
What you call "ridiculous" is simply what you have been conditioned to think, no more. Elsewhere in the world it might be called "effective".
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really, then what exactly would you call it? You are essentially subject to all manner of ridiculous punishment for what would be considered minor or non-offenses in most free countries. Most of their elections are uncontested. You can dress it up because their streets are clean and safe, but it's still facism.
> You are essentially subject to all manner of ridiculous punishment for what would be considered minor or non-offenses in most free countries Like vandalism and petty theft. And just look at how successful those "free countries" have been in addressing those categories of crime! What you call "ridiculous" is simply what you have been conditioned to think, no more. Elsewhere in the world it might be called "effective…
Fascism is very effective.
It's about values and freedom. If you don't care about that, safety is easy.
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#10Wow... that is beyond weird. From what I've read I always thought Singapore was quite the corrupt-free police state.
Some replies to parent dispute the 'police state' moniker. Decide for yourself:
(Source: http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/singap... . Points below are all direct quotes)
* Singapore's Internal Security Act (ISA) and Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act permit the authorities to arrest and detain suspects for virtually unlimited periods of time without charge or judicial review.
* The Misuse of Drugs Act permits the authorities to confine suspected drug users in "rehabilitation" centers for up to three years without trial.
* Outdoor gatherings of five or more persons still require police permits. The city-state's Speakers Corner -- where people may demonstrate, perform, and hold exhibitions -- remains the only outdoor space where uncensored speech is allowed in the country.
* The Singaporean government and senior government officials have frequently brought charges of "scandalizing the court," criminal and civil defamation, and sedition to silence and even bankrupt its critics.
* Singapore's 208,000 foreign domestic workers are still excluded from the Employment Act and key labor protections, such as limits on daily work hours.
* Human rights defenders in Singapore risk being fined, imprisoned, bankrupted, and banned from traveling outside the country without government approval.