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Re: HN will be down Saturday morning while we switch servers

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Why should it be? You can get a long long way by treating the filesystem as a database. The first engineers at Amazon used the same technique a lot, as do I.

Because you always end up building your own database out of flat files and that is always worse than using an existing one.

Just as one example, I think you could make a fairly convincing case that the official version of git uses a "filesystem as a database" system with great success.

I doubt it would be improved by using something more "proper".

Re: HN will be down Saturday morning while we switch servers

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For all the flak HN gets about fnid problems, etc, it's still awe-inspiring to me that such a popular site runs on a single server, with so little admintime ;)

Just how popular is HN? Anyone got info on uniques or pageviews a month?

We currently get just over 200k uniques and just under 2m page views on weekdays (less on weekends).

Re: HN will be down Saturday morning while we switch servers

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Because you always end up building your own database out of flat files and that is always worse than using an existing one.

And yet, here you are, on a site run off a flat file database.

A commenting site that:

- Has average latency over 500ms when not under load - Performs quite poorly under load (I hate to bring it up, but the most recent example was Aaron Swartz's passing. Anyone who used HN then to get news knows how poorly HN performs under load) - Is restarted every week or two because it leaks memory - Keeps XSRF tokens in memory and loses them across restarts - Doesn't have a full markup language

HN is quite poorly-featured compared to typical commenting sites. People use HN because pg is here. He could remove half the features on the site (bold & italics... what features are there even to remove beside nested commenting?) and retain 90% of the audience.

Re: HN will be down Saturday morning while we switch servers

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet, here you are, on a site run off a flat file database.

A commenting site that: - Has average latency over 500ms when not under load - Performs quite poorly under load (I hate to bring it up, but the most recent example was Aaron Swartz's passing. Anyone who used HN then to get news knows how poorly HN performs under load) - Is restarted every week or two because it leaks memory - Keeps XSRF tokens in memory and loses them across restarts - Doesn't have a full markup lang…

You're probably seeing the artificial delay introduced for commenters that can't maintain at least a 4.0 comment point average or people who aren't signed in. Site runs like butter for me.

Re: HN will be down Saturday morning while we switch servers

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2,000 startups will be launched on Monday morning as a result of this downtime.

... broken window fallacy ?

Not sure what you mean by that but I think it'll be closer to: >"HN's Down!" >"fuck it, lets get some work done"

Re: HN will be down Saturday morning while we switch servers

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And the shiny new server replacing it: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Ibm_pc_51...

My guess was this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Com...

I was thinking one of these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Bundesarc...
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