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Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#91
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but it's still just as corrupt as it's been since the collapse of Soviet Union In the Soviet Union you not only bribed police, but the grocer, the mail man, your child's principal, and the list goes on.

Why on earth would anyone bribe a mailman?

I mailed a package to Russia about 5 years ago. Recipient had to pay a bribe to get it.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#92
post #84
post #7

Here is a quick story about Russian police from a few years ago. This should give you an idea why a dashboard camera is not an option, but a necessity. My mother was in Russia visiting my uncle (her brother) in Krasnodar 3 years ago. He picked her up at the airport and they started their drive back -- about 2 hours away from the city. As soon as they got on the highway, they noticed a civilian sedan on the side of th…

My russian friend made me believe the only reason for those cameras was that some random guy would jump in front of your car on the express lane and then sue you for running over them.

He joked. This doesn't work with the Russian court system.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#93
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My russian friend made me believe the only reason for those cameras was that some random guy would jump in front of your car on the express lane and then sue you for running over them.

He joked. This doesn't work with the Russian court system.

It works in the Chinese court system, unfortunately. I guess we just don't have the laws to allow these yet.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#94
post #7

Here is a quick story about Russian police from a few years ago. This should give you an idea why a dashboard camera is not an option, but a necessity. My mother was in Russia visiting my uncle (her brother) in Krasnodar 3 years ago. He picked her up at the airport and they started their drive back -- about 2 hours away from the city. As soon as they got on the highway, they noticed a civilian sedan on the side of th…

> but it's still just as corrupt as it's been since the collapse of Soviet Union In the Soviet Union you not only bribed police, but the grocer, the mail man, your child's principal, and the list goes on.

So just like India now, got it.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#95

Wow, sounds like a foolproof idea! Wait, maybe the bad guy who's broke my window and is repeatedly punching me in the face will just grab the dash cam.

Yeah, you're right. Because it can fail in one type of situation, it must be useless. ;)

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#96
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I realize that I'm just throwing more anecdotes into the "NOT DATA" bucket here, but the last time I visited Russia I was driven around by my grandfather and uncle. It was probably one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced on the road, and I've had a tire blow-out in a Ford king-everything truck, as well as losing power-everything in the same truck, both times going 70+ mph on a highway.

What specifically made the driving in Russia so terrifying? Was it the kind of things the article was talking about, or something else?

I never saw anyone trying to pull a scam, but my impressions - and this was about a decade ago - were of a Road Warrior type environment. The distinction between road and sidewalk was a mere suggestion, traffic signals were the equivalent of someone shushing you in a library, and lanes - what lanes?

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#97
post #8

Seems like a necessity in Russia but a useful thing to have elsewhere. I know I've been in situations in the USA where I've wished I'd had one. Can anyone here recommend a brand/model?

Is there a good way to put one in the grille of the car (i.e. permanent), not in the passenger compartment?

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I don't mean people will become as savage as they are on the Russian roads..." The premise of TFA is not that "because of dashcams people on russian roads did become savage". The premise of the article is that thanks to dashcams there's some hope that people become more civilized. Your sentence make it sound like dashcams are the issue that turned russians sociopathic. It's not the case: now we have visual proofs bu…

I took his post to imply that the purpose of dash cams in Russia is in response to the savagery of the roads, not that cams turned people into savages. I'm not sure that anyone in their right mind would argue that in any situation.

You are correct. I never meant to imply that dashcams and savagery were correlated in any way. We have become separated from reality by the confined view into reality that mainstream media has provided. With google googles everywhere maybe we'll immerse back into reality through billions of hours of google glasses video passed through the hands of legions of expert editors.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#99
For those of you interested in purchasing one, DealExtreme has ~500 of them here:

http://dx.com/c/735

Features include GPS, SD card recording, auto loop recording, auto-record when powered, stop when unpowered, accelerometers, or compass. They tend to be about $100 shipped anywhere in the US.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

#100

Wow, sounds like a foolproof idea! Wait, maybe the bad guy who's broke my window and is repeatedly punching me in the face will just grab the dash cam.

Just make sure you upload to the cloud in real time and you'll be fine :)
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