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Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by pixl97 »

smackfu wrote: post #53
coldtea wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, some people think the same about the US from stories they hear.

I guess the question is whether Russian really need dashcams so much, or whether they are just overreacting.

In Russia it's hard to say, but in the U.S. I recommend that if you operate a commercial vehicle that you install one. If you operate a business and have people driving for you, you can review the footage and get rid of the problem employees before they cost you a million in insurance losses. After installing a system for a transportation company reviews of the tapes showed that 75% of the drivers were talking on their cell phones. They had a company meeting and showed a compilation video of all the phone video, even though it was now against federal law to do so. After that point drivers stopped using the phone while driving.

As the driver the camera is a mixed blessing, if you cause the accident, you've created your own evidence against yourself. If you the owner, it makes it harder for the employee to lie about what occurred if they were in the wrong.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by pixl97 »

mesofile wrote: post #8

Seems like a necessity in Russia but a useful thing to have elsewhere. I know I've been in situations in the USA where I've wished I'd had one. Can anyone here recommend a brand/model?

http://januscam.com/index.php/products/dual-camera-janus-v2

I've installed these in taxis. They have outside/inside cams (to make sure the occupants aren't pointing a gun at the driver). They have a wireless 2.4ghz wireless upload to upload the files when the car gets to home base. And they show telemetry, speed, gps, and impact/vibration.

They are for commercial purposes so they are probably out of the price range of most people ($400 I think).

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by sakopov »

sakopov wrote: post #7

Here is a quick story about Russian police from a few years ago. This should give you an idea why a dashboard camera is not an option, but a necessity. My mother was in Russia visiting my uncle (her brother) in Krasnodar 3 years ago. He picked her up at the airport and they started their drive back -- about 2 hours away from the city. As soon as they got on the highway, they noticed a civilian sedan on the side of th…

Apologize for any grammatical mistakes. Typed this up as my lunch was coming to an end. If it wasn't already obvious, the person driving the civilian car was another cop, as both my mother and her brother found out later from someone who ran into the exact situation before.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by pavel_lishin »

ryusage wrote: post #63
xentronium wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a complex question. 1. Article is mostly based on CHP community posts and comments. Their data is strongly skewed toward scary stuff (which is the only type of content that is posted there) 2. There are several categories of horrible things that can happen to you, but mostly you can avoid them. However, sometimes you can't, and sometimes it's batshit crazy. For example, couple of months ago, some road crash w…

So is the article just picking out a few isolated incidents and painting a completely unrealistic picture of driving in Russia?

I realize that I'm just throwing more anecdotes into the "NOT DATA" bucket here, but the last time I visited Russia I was driven around by my grandfather and uncle. It was probably one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced on the road, and I've had a tire blow-out in a Ford king-everything truck, as well as losing power-everything in the same truck, both times going 70+ mph on a highway.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by danabramov »

stcredzero wrote: post #49
danabramov wrote: post #40

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Is this meant to be sarcastic or serious?

Not meant to be entirely serious, but I do think that seeing lots of sociopathic behavior in society does affect interpersonal behaviors.

Um, perhaps. And what exactly does this have to do with Russian girls?

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by stcredzero »

ryusage wrote: post #59
stcredzero wrote: post #50

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> I've never heard of people in the US carrying around weapons purely in case of road rage, for example. I've had a friend of mine in Texas give me specific (un-solicted) advice on how to have a gun for protection in case of road rage. (Involving what features not to get, because you don't really need them and they make juries think you're a gun nut itching to shoot someone.) Also in Texas, once I got out of the car…

Hm, fair enough. But how often do your friends actually get attacked? Is it really a reasonable fear for them? I've never been there myself so I might be completely wrong, but my impression of Texas is that the culture there is more paranoid than necessary, and unusually preoccupied with the idea of lethal self-defense. And what kind of area was this? Part of my surprise about Russia is that it sounds like this kind…

> But how often do your friends actually get attacked?

Well, once someone shot a rifle through their house, and they discovered the bullet holes and the bullet lodged in the back wall the next morning. However, the husband works in criminal justice, so they hear about a lot more violent incidents than most people.

> And what kind of area was this?

Suburban Houston.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by stcredzero »

danabramov wrote: post #75
stcredzero wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not meant to be entirely serious, but I do think that seeing lots of sociopathic behavior in society does affect interpersonal behaviors.

Um, perhaps. And what exactly does this have to do with Russian girls?

Oh sorry. Thought they were part of society.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by ryusage »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #74
ryusage wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is the article just picking out a few isolated incidents and painting a completely unrealistic picture of driving in Russia?

I realize that I'm just throwing more anecdotes into the "NOT DATA" bucket here, but the last time I visited Russia I was driven around by my grandfather and uncle. It was probably one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced on the road, and I've had a tire blow-out in a Ford king-everything truck, as well as losing power-everything in the same truck, both times going 70+ mph on a highway.

What specifically made the driving in Russia so terrifying? Was it the kind of things the article was talking about, or something else?

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by stcredzero »

arrrg wrote: post #68
stcredzero wrote: post #34

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Reminds me of these reddit comments about Russian girls: http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/16bl5l/something_som... http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/16bl5l/something_som...

Keep that sexist crap contained on Reddit, don't spread it around here, sexist.

Wow, I must've really hurt your feelings in the other thread. Delighted.

Re: Dash-cams: Russia’s Last Hope For Civility And Survival On The Road (2012)

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Post by networked »

rtkwe wrote: post #39
coldtea wrote: post #29

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Actually, in Soviet Union you did not have any reason to bribe any of them.

> Actually, in Soviet Union you did not have any money to bribe any of them. Fixed.

That's not right at all. The people of the Soviet Union had the money through most of the country's history; however, they often couldn't easily exchange that money for useful, quality goods like food, kitchenware, furniture or cars [1] without the proper connections and bribery. Bribes were often (perhaps mostly) not payed in money, either.

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_ruble#Economic_role

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortage_economy

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Товарный_дефицит_в_СССР (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js...)

[1] As opposed to less useful goods like political books with titles along the lines of "The Proceedings of the Nth Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union", which were plenty, and which you sometimes had to buy by the dozen in order for the salesperson to agree to sell you a few more desirable books.

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