Basically, vaccine induced allergy.
A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
31–40 of 79 posts
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#32> Normally, the liver breaks down alcohol into an enzyme that’s transformed into the compound acetaldehyde (responsible for that nasty hangover feeling), which in turn is degraded into another enzyme.
Replace 1st and 3rd "into" with "by", please: reading this makes my mind hurt and I'm sure it's the same for anyone with basic biochem knowledge...
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#33I'm a psychiatrist and I work with an addiction population. I think many of them would be glad to have this as an option. It's certainly not perfect, but it would provide an additional layer of protection to people who struggle to maintain sobriety. I think it's sad that the first reaction to this is to think of it as something from "dystopian" science fiction. The oral medication disulfram shares a similar mechanism…
...and then the alcoholics will turn to harder drugs for which they don't have intolerance. Great news! ...if you're a drug dealer.
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, yet this tactic pops up all the time. I suspect it keeps those with short attention spans (who can't be bothered to get through an entire page of writing) glued in better to the article. Anyone know what this "literary device" is called? "yet this tactic pops up all the time."
It's called a Pull Quote. It's used in newspapers and magazines to draw you into an article as you leaf through the pages, I guess it serves basically the same purpose in blogs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull_quote
It works far better in print media, in my opinion... you don't leaf through the pages of a blog.
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#35I'm a psychiatrist and I work with an addiction population. I think many of them would be glad to have this as an option. It's certainly not perfect, but it would provide an additional layer of protection to people who struggle to maintain sobriety. I think it's sad that the first reaction to this is to think of it as something from "dystopian" science fiction. The oral medication disulfram shares a similar mechanism…
...and then the alcoholics will turn to harder drugs for which they don't have intolerance. Great news! ...if you're a drug dealer.
So you're saying that you believe in 'gateway drugs'?
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#36I'm a psychiatrist and I work with an addiction population. I think many of them would be glad to have this as an option. It's certainly not perfect, but it would provide an additional layer of protection to people who struggle to maintain sobriety. I think it's sad that the first reaction to this is to think of it as something from "dystopian" science fiction. The oral medication disulfram shares a similar mechanism…
...and then the alcoholics will turn to harder drugs for which they don't have intolerance. Great news! ...if you're a drug dealer.
Its quite the jump going from, a trip to the corner store to grab your bottle of vodka, to hunting down a drug dealer so you can try "harder drugs".
Accessibility definitely plays a role here.
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#37I remember a roommate of my in college who was a heavy smoker and was trying to quit. Friend of his was in Equinox (the multi-level marketing scheme) and gave him some of these "no smoke" tablets to cure him of his smoking habit. He said all it did was give him intolerable diarrhea for a week and then he threw the rest of the tablets away. I would imagine most people would do the same thing with the oral medication i…
I can't imagine what on earth could have such an effect when reacting with nicotine or other comps from cigarette smoke. Do you have any reference to those "no smoke" tablets? I'm really interested in the pharma/toxycology of such a thing... (In case they were not just laxatives :) )
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
...and then the alcoholics will turn to harder drugs for which they don't have intolerance. Great news! ...if you're a drug dealer.
So you're saying that you believe in 'gateway drugs'?
not really, but imagine that you're a drinker that also smokes pot occasionally. what do you do when alcohol no longer gives you any satisfaction? increase the consumption of the other, or if you're not using smth else, look for other stimulants or disinhibitors. it's not about gateway drugs, it's about addiction swapping!
Edit: + and it's not like if you're a pot smoker, you're gonna start doing heroin when pot is no longer enough for you, so I don't believe in gateway drugs.
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
...and then the alcoholics will turn to harder drugs for which they don't have intolerance. Great news! ...if you're a drug dealer.
So you're saying that you believe in 'gateway drugs'?
I don't think there's necessarily an implication of the validity of "gateway drugs" there. The same idea crossed my mind, but only if this sort of treatment is not accompanied by anything else.
It's generally agreed that people abuse alcohol because of some sort of underlying problem. If you take the option of alcohol away and do nothing to address the problem, then it's reasonable to assume that they will look elsewhere.
Re: A New Vaccine For Drinking Could Keep Alcoholics Sober
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're saying that you believe in 'gateway drugs'?
I don't think there's necessarily an implication of the validity of "gateway drugs" there. The same idea crossed my mind, but only if this sort of treatment is not accompanied by anything else. It's generally agreed that people abuse alcohol because of some sort of underlying problem. If you take the option of alcohol away and do nothing to address the problem, then it's reasonable to assume that they will look elsew…
> It's generally agreed that people abuse alcohol because of some sort of underlying problem.
Is it?