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Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

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Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

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post #16

Can someone please change the title to say "has donated", since "had donated" implies he is dead. Or that the took the money back.

That's not what the pluperfect tense implies in English. It simply means something that took place prior to a moment in the past [1]. There is still some ambiguity that could lead a reader to infer that Gates is finished donating money. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_aspect#English

>It simply means something that took place prior to a moment in the past

True, but that implies that there exists such a moment with particular significance. Otherwise, you wouldn't use that tense. In other words, it leaves you thinking Bill Gates donated 36 billion dollars before X, where X is his death, an alien invasion, the collapse of the dollar, etc.

I don't know if there is a rule of thumb as to what tense to use, but "had donated" in this context feels plain wrong. That kind of dissonance is captured perfectly by this Mitch Hedberg quote:

>I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

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Gates' donations are invested in problems that should have been dealt with by governments, whose tax money is spent instead on the semi-corrupt self interests of their leaders and their business cronies,[0] an economic-social structure which contributed much to the way in which Gates and other Global business billionaires have made their fortune. It's a twisted system, and conscience-cleansing philantropy by its current and past players only brings back a small portion of what should have been invested in the first place.

[0] http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php/topic,5320.msg22368...

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

#23
post #16

Can someone please change the title to say "has donated", since "had donated" implies he is dead. Or that the took the money back.

That's not what the pluperfect tense implies in English. It simply means something that took place prior to a moment in the past [1]. There is still some ambiguity that could lead a reader to infer that Gates is finished donating money. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_aspect#English

And absent of any intent on the speaker's part to contextualize vis-à-vis this prior moment in the past, it is the wrong tense.

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

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Damn it, we just went over this article on HN a few days ago. The numbers are wrong, and if you correct the male circumcision number to 18.5 million rather than billion, the total drops by half.

See previous submission: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5191094

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

#26
post #7

I think the Gates Foundation is doing some amazing work. But, uh, this blog post doesn't seem very well researched. It lists $18.5 billion for male circumcision in Africa, when the correct number is $18.5 million . Kinda makes me question the other numbers.

I imagine the $18.5 billion on male circumcision is wrong, but you are also wrong:

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Grants-2008/Pages/Population-...

That's a single $50 million grant. Back out, create a search for Africa+HIV and you immediately see hundreds of millions of grants, so I imagine the bulk of the misstatement is from conflating HIV programs with those only targeting male circumcision.

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/grants/Pages/search.aspx

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed - or at least he's become one. Something good did come out of Windows after all...

Windows has been a good product for the average user since 1995, and has been great since Windows 7; it's just their business practices that were a problem. And to be honest, they were hardly the worst offender there either.

it's just their business practices that were a problem

Yes, agree. But everything is relative, right. All of a sudden the stuff they were doing doesn't seem that evil, and the hip kids from the block are suing the pants off everyone else that comes to play in their playground.

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

#28
post #7

I think the Gates Foundation is doing some amazing work. But, uh, this blog post doesn't seem very well researched. It lists $18.5 billion for male circumcision in Africa, when the correct number is $18.5 million . Kinda makes me question the other numbers.

His TED talks were pretty good too, gives a good insight into the work.

http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_unplugged.html

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

#29
post #7

I think the Gates Foundation is doing some amazing work. But, uh, this blog post doesn't seem very well researched. It lists $18.5 billion for male circumcision in Africa, when the correct number is $18.5 million . Kinda makes me question the other numbers.

Yes, the donation for the Male Circumcision Consortium (MCC) was 'only' $18.5 million not billion.

The press release for this is here: http://fhi.org/en/AboutFHI/Media/Releases/081124_male_circum...

BTW, the press release says that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation donated the money. So this does not necessarily mean that the money came from Bill Gates. Plus, you would count it twice if you count his donations to the foundation and the donations from the foundation ...

Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime

#30
post #25

Damn it, we just went over this article on HN a few days ago. The numbers are wrong, and if you correct the male circumcision number to 18.5 million rather than billion, the total drops by half. See previous submission: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5191094

First I've seen this, but that donation jumped out at me immediately. How could a male circumcision program possibly use all of $18 billion?! 18 million makes much more sense.
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