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Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by jorde »

VanL wrote: post #2

I (and probably several other) members of the board will be on this thread to answer any questions. Van Lindberg Chairman, Python Software Foundation Edit: I have been asked what sort of statements would be helpful. I can't tell you exactly what to say - it needs to be your statement, but we need to make it clear that when someone says "Python" in relation to software, or a "Python server," or with "Python experience…

At least Aalto University in Finland uses Python as the entry level teaching language nowadays [1]. I don't know anyone from the CS department but I'll do my best to reach out to them about the matter.

[1]: https://noppa.aalto.fi/noppa/kurssi/t-106.1208/

Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by VanL »

jorde wrote: post #71
VanL wrote: post #2

I (and probably several other) members of the board will be on this thread to answer any questions. Van Lindberg Chairman, Python Software Foundation Edit: I have been asked what sort of statements would be helpful. I can't tell you exactly what to say - it needs to be your statement, but we need to make it clear that when someone says "Python" in relation to software, or a "Python server," or with "Python experience…

At least Aalto University in Finland uses Python as the entry level teaching language nowadays [1]. I don't know anyone from the CS department but I'll do my best to reach out to them about the matter. [1]: https://noppa.aalto.fi/noppa/kurssi/t-106.1208/

Thank you!

Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by tehwalrus »

VanL wrote: post #2

I (and probably several other) members of the board will be on this thread to answer any questions. Van Lindberg Chairman, Python Software Foundation Edit: I have been asked what sort of statements would be helpful. I can't tell you exactly what to say - it needs to be your statement, but we need to make it clear that when someone says "Python" in relation to software, or a "Python server," or with "Python experience…

waiting for LibreOffice to download so I can wack things together for you. I am a UK developer/student.

I'll be including:

    - screencap of my github profile (4 or 5 projects written in python)
    - 2 approaches from companies wanting to hire me (through LinkedIn) because I had 
      "Python" listed on my profile
    - Academic references which use "Python" the programming language in a title or 
      abstract.
    - evidence of my experience with Linux (i.e. that python is preinstalled in many 
      many distributions),
    - evidence that I am writing the majority of my PhD code (I'll get you line 
      counts) in Python.
This makes me very very angry. If you have the address of the company or anything, I'd also like to write to them to tell them they're insane to try this - they're an embarrassment to the UK.

Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by timruffles »

VanL wrote: post #2

I (and probably several other) members of the board will be on this thread to answer any questions. Van Lindberg Chairman, Python Software Foundation Edit: I have been asked what sort of statements would be helpful. I can't tell you exactly what to say - it needs to be your statement, but we need to make it clear that when someone says "Python" in relation to software, or a "Python server," or with "Python experience…

EuroPython conference - Googling I get mentions back to 2001. I'm sure you could get in touch with the organisers for promo material etc http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2001-November/00...

Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by Raz0rblade »

Python is from 1980 first public release 1998 So to a judge ask them the meaning of prior art. One cannt copyright what allready exists in the public domain, even if it was not copyrighted. You only need to proof you where earlier.

Reminds me of apple-samsung and phone shapes, and then someone found an old startrek movie allready showing such devices.

Re: Python trademark at risk in Europe

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Post by belorn »

Lewisham wrote: post #30
antihero wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely at least some part of their stack is built using Python, so couldn't you tell them that they may not use the software if they are going to proceed with this?

That's not how the open-source movement works. You can't start excluding people based on usage you don't like. If you do that, you're explicitly not following open-source ideals.

Apache license, mozilla license and GPL has provisions that terminates the licence upon the initiation of particular lawsuits. The most common ones are Patent retaliation clauses. This is nothing strange, and has existed for a rather long time. It would not be a stretch to expand this to trademark lawsuits.
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