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Virool (YC S12) Raises $6.62 Million “Seed” Round To Help Make Videos Go Viral

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Re: Virool (YC S12) Raises $6.62 Million “Seed” Round To Help Make Videos Go Viral

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How do you scale something that decreases in value with every new customer it acquires? You can only pump so many fake video promotions into a market before it's completely saturated and people start to resent the constant assault of your ads. Not to mention the fact that every Tom, Dick and Jane with a camera is already pushing their own videos every chance they get. Then there's this: > “All [Jimmy Kimmel] had done…

Disclosure: I am an investor.

When we were doing diligence on Virool we ran our own tests with the platform. We took one of our portfolio company's videos and Spent $300 promoting it. At the beginning the video had 15 views and 0 likes. We were able to finish the campaign in a day, and at the end there were 7322 impressions and 3000 views. Note that Virool only charges when a video has been watched for 30 seconds. The conversion of and impression to a 30 second+ view was above 35% for all of our campaigns and on mobile it was 70.32% (not that it mattered because you aren't charged on conversion of impressions).

The next day we had 5483 views, 28 likes, and 10 comments (almost all positive), without having paid for the incremental boost.

Your point about decreasing value and fake video promotions doesn't hold true with this test nor the experience of other customers. The views are not fake, they come from actual individuals who watch for 30 seconds from legitimate publishers. If they weren't then YouTube could strip a customer of their views as they did with Lady GaGa who lost 156mm views [1]. This hasn't happened once for Virool.

If you watch a video for 30 seconds it is highly doubtful that you are ignoring it. Virool doesn't do bottom of the page video pre-rolls that won't be seen but are counted as a charged view. If you are in an app, it seems odd that you would assume every user ignores a video for 30 seconds. You are correct that there will be plenty of people who do ignore, but as a Virool customer I am not getting charged when this occurs so it doesn't seem like a strong argument why their business is flawed.

Finally, you may feel that people after 1980 have been conditioned to ignore ads, but if companies like Facebook and Google are making billions in revenue from digital advertising, I doubt that marketers are shoving money their way if no one is looking at their ads. In 2012, US digital video advertising was estimated to be around $2.9bn out of a $37.3bn bucket for digital ad spend [2]. The market is still nascent and there is a continued shift of advertising dollars to online and mobile from the classic channels (print/tv/radio). The market isn't anywhere near saturated and I doubt it will be anytime soon.

[1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/29/lady-gaga-youtube-v... [2] http://www.emarketer.com/newsroom/index.php/digital-ad-spend...

Re: Virool (YC S12) Raises $6.62 Million “Seed” Round To Help Make Videos Go Viral

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post #21

How do you scale something that decreases in value with every new customer it acquires? You can only pump so many fake video promotions into a market before it's completely saturated and people start to resent the constant assault of your ads. Not to mention the fact that every Tom, Dick and Jane with a camera is already pushing their own videos every chance they get. Then there's this: > “All [Jimmy Kimmel] had done…

Disclosure: I am an investor. When we were doing diligence on Virool we ran our own tests with the platform. We took one of our portfolio company's videos and Spent $300 promoting it. At the beginning the video had 15 views and 0 likes. We were able to finish the campaign in a day, and at the end there were 7322 impressions and 3000 views. Note that Virool only charges when a video has been watched for 30 seconds. Th…

I'm not doubting at all what you say as far as views, likes etc. I think, however, you are quite naive as far as Youtube deleting videos. Sure getting view counts in the millions in a day will get your video deleted but not 6k in a day. It would be nice if you could post the portfolio company's video so we could see if it had a viral nature to it.

Also, a video getting that many legitimate views in a day should have scored consecutive views in the following days - of course this is the nature of a video going viral.

Re: Virool (YC S12) Raises $6.62 Million “Seed” Round To Help Make Videos Go Viral

#25

Noticed some pretty bad complaints from customers on Techcrunch seemingly alleging click (or in this case play) fraud. Do you have anything yet in place to prevent play-fraud? "Tried running some videos with Virool. Couple of things I didn't expect: 1. Even with very precise targeting, my entire $100 ad budget was eaten up right away. We're talking seconds - minutes. 2. I was charged for views after just a few second…

Good point. Google's reputation in part is based on the exhaustive mechanisms they have in place to combat click fraud and assure advertisers they're getting billed for quality. I remember once bringing their wrath down on me because of accidentally clicking on one of my own AdSense ads. Took me 9 months of grovelling to get my AdSense account unsuspended after that.

Re: Virool (YC S12) Raises $6.62 Million “Seed” Round To Help Make Videos Go Viral

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post #21

How do you scale something that decreases in value with every new customer it acquires? You can only pump so many fake video promotions into a market before it's completely saturated and people start to resent the constant assault of your ads. Not to mention the fact that every Tom, Dick and Jane with a camera is already pushing their own videos every chance they get. Then there's this: > “All [Jimmy Kimmel] had done…

Disclosure: I am an investor. When we were doing diligence on Virool we ran our own tests with the platform. We took one of our portfolio company's videos and Spent $300 promoting it. At the beginning the video had 15 views and 0 likes. We were able to finish the campaign in a day, and at the end there were 7322 impressions and 3000 views. Note that Virool only charges when a video has been watched for 30 seconds. Th…

How much would it cost to do it yourself (through amazon mechanical turk or through some other task-based service)?

Re: Virool (YC S12) Raises $6.62 Million “Seed” Round To Help Make Videos Go Viral

#27

We have a company that enables your videos to go viral ... that don't have their own video that has gone viral to show their company to the world, but instead we learn from techcrunch.

Apparently they need that seed money for the product :/

We are definitely in a bubble ...

Re: Virool (YC S12) Raises $6.62 Million “Seed” Round To Help Make Videos Go Viral

#28
I am really sick of people talking about the multitrillion markets they want to conquer. So many startups calling that card.It's ridiculous! "We will be successful because it is a 1000 trillion market".How about being realistic.It's just stupid.We all know nobody will get even close to a damn trillion.

I would rather divide 7 mil.$ between 10 good startups instead of 1 like this.

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