So do you think I should black list them on Nuuton? I'd rather not waste my time with a site that does this.
I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
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Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just like expert sex change, Quora has a way to see the answers without signing in (remember scrolling to the bottom?). Click the datestamp at the bottom of a blurred answer to see it. As a long-time Quora user, it disappoints me that the content I donate is held ransom in an attempt at "growth hacking".
As a long-time Quora user I actually like this and it is one of the main reasons I share so freely on Quora. If I knew anybody could read anything I write via a Google search, I would be much more guarded - and if they suddenly stopped this practice I would put serious thought to deleting all of my answers. But the way they do it preserves a good deal of anonymity. I don't know if that is their intent, but it's the r…
You're relying on undocumented behavior. They'd be well within their rights to change it (say due to this adverse publicity). What happens then?
You got me to go login to Quora after over a year to see what you were so concerned about. Perfectly reasonable, well thought-out comments on respectable topics. I think you're trolling, sir.
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
StackOverflow does modify user-contributed content and have very serious moderators issues. Which is why I'm sure there's going to be something new coming along one of these days: something where users are in control of what they post (e.g. not a wiki unless the user who did post does accept himself others' edits). Collaborating to answer questions is fine. But modifying and closing questions artificially (due to ver…
The difference is that SO mods are actually trying to improve the quality of the site, or at least that's their purpose. Whether people perceive them as doing that in all cases, that's another issue. Quora is hiding answers to make you sign up.
Furthermore, SO makes it very clear when someone has updated a question, so it couldn't reasonably be misattributed to you. (It shows the editor's avatar and date.)
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#104Interesting. Such tricks is exactly why Stack Overflow originally went against Expert Exchange, promising never to hide user-contributed content, and explicitly licensing it as Creative Commons. Quora is its content. Its content is user contributed. Hiding such content from other users is just plain evil.
StackOverflow does modify user-contributed content and have very serious moderators issues. Which is why I'm sure there's going to be something new coming along one of these days: something where users are in control of what they post (e.g. not a wiki unless the user who did post does accept himself others' edits). Collaborating to answer questions is fine. But modifying and closing questions artificially (due to ver…
The mod vs. unmodded issue is a classical problem on the internet, and may never be solved fully. I don't think SO's modding is any worse than Wikipedia's. As such, both are good enough.
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#105Quora is such a piece of crap, a blight on internet.
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#106I really don't understand why people are so up in arms. First everyone was in love with Quora, now everyone hates them? What changed? Yes - they want you to join their community because their ecosystem depends on people signing up. I signed up for Quora once and since then it's never forced me to sign in again.
Because people hate being coerced to do something. Stackoverflow didn't need to force people to do so. A Q&A site only purpose is to give you the best possible answer. FAST. Anything else degrades your experience.
If quora breaks me out of the flow to register to their site ... they have cost me way more productivity than they could possibly bring back.
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#107I think Adam's mistake here is to go too much by the numbers. He presumably has numbers that show that Quora ends up net ahead if they force people to create accounts to read answers. He grew Facebook very effectively by following the numbers. But he may not realize how different this case is from Facebook's. It may well be that for a site like Quora, at this stage in its life, users are not all equal. It may be a mi…
It's funny, I'm more likely to fiddle about with chrome's inspector to try to remove just the right divs to get a quora page to be readable than to spend however long it takes to sign up. It's personally grating to me that they take such a boneheaded tack to content in the 21st century. Did they learn nothing from expertsexchange? It grates even more that they are putting crowd sourced content behind a wall.
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#108I think Adam's mistake here is to go too much by the numbers. He presumably has numbers that show that Quora ends up net ahead if they force people to create accounts to read answers. He grew Facebook very effectively by following the numbers. But he may not realize how different this case is from Facebook's. It may well be that for a site like Quora, at this stage in its life, users are not all equal. It may be a mi…
Yahoo Answers is open. Has millions of questions and answers. Lot of people who truly appreciate a good answer, use it. Just that elite don't want to answer questions from ordinary folks and seclude themselves in quora.
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#109I really don't understand why people are so up in arms. First everyone was in love with Quora, now everyone hates them? What changed? Yes - they want you to join their community because their ecosystem depends on people signing up. I signed up for Quora once and since then it's never forced me to sign in again.
I had a similar thought when reading the article and these comments. I've been a member of Quora for a long time, and I can't remember the last time I had to log in again in my desktop browser. Any time I've navigated to a Quora page, I've seen all the answers no problem. So a lot of these complaints are news to me.
I completely agree with the mobile blocking through Safari & others, though, especially if the whole page is being downloaded.
Re: I'd like to use the web my way, thank you very much Quora
#110> [nytimes paywall measures] These techniques are wide and varied. They appear to look at your IP, use cookies, use HTTP_Referer, use URL querystrings. "Appear" what now how? Nope, it's just cookies. Very easy to defeat for anyone who cares on the desktop -- somewhat harder on apple walled garden mobile. But apparently good enough for their revenue, so.
Nytimes paywall depends on inducing different feelings. They just use it to remind you that "Hey we are doing great work here, show us some support" ... so they don't mind it being porous.