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It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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There is no excuse why downloadable content should cost more -- economies of scale, shipping costs, and differences in taxes and exchange rates are all irrelevant. Even in the case of physical goods, the disparity is often drastically more than can be accounted for by the above reasons. This comment sums it up quite well: http://news.cnet.com/8618-1001_3-57568633.html?assetTypeId=1... There is a parliamentary committ…

There is no excuse why a movie ticket for a 7:00 PM showing should cost more than a movie ticket for the first showing of the day. If anything it should cost less because there are more people in attendance making the cost per attendee lower. Outrage! Let's get the United Nations, Interpol, and the Parliament to intervene!

The movie ticket represents a claim on some very limited resources (i.e. space inside the theater).

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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post #111

As an Australian (now an NYC resident), I am no stranger to the price gouging that Australians have had to suffer although I must say that how it is now is much, much better than it was 10-20 years ago. First, it's worth noting that US prices don't include sales tax. Australian prices include a 10% GST. Second, international companies will end up doing their accounting in one currency. For tech companies unsurprising…

if A$1 = ~US$1.04, the price should be lower in Australia, not higher

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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post #111

As an Australian (now an NYC resident), I am no stranger to the price gouging that Australians have had to suffer although I must say that how it is now is much, much better than it was 10-20 years ago. First, it's worth noting that US prices don't include sales tax. Australian prices include a 10% GST. Second, international companies will end up doing their accounting in one currency. For tech companies unsurprising…

Thanks for bringing up the currency risk - while certainly not responsible for the entire price difference, the cost for hedging risk against foreign currency in Australia has increased quite a bit according to the Australian central bank (from 5-10 basis points to 30-40 - http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/fsr/2010/mar/html/box-b.h... ) which will definitely put a dent in your profit margin if you start accepting Au…

Thanks for looking that up and providing some data. But 30-40 basis points = ~0.35%, which is ~1/300th of the ~100% difference in price, so it seems like it's not a significant factor.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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post #111

As an Australian (now an NYC resident), I am no stranger to the price gouging that Australians have had to suffer although I must say that how it is now is much, much better than it was 10-20 years ago. First, it's worth noting that US prices don't include sales tax. Australian prices include a 10% GST. Second, international companies will end up doing their accounting in one currency. For tech companies unsurprising…

Thanks for bringing up the currency risk - while certainly not responsible for the entire price difference, the cost for hedging risk against foreign currency in Australia has increased quite a bit according to the Australian central bank (from 5-10 basis points to 30-40 - http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/fsr/2010/mar/html/box-b.h... ) which will definitely put a dent in your profit margin if you start accepting Au…

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Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe because it's particularly insulting to the intelligence, especially when your customers are computer savvy people who know just how arbitrary region-based pricing of digital goods is?

Exploiting human irrationality and stupidity is one of the most venerable, time-proven ways of making money. If you feel your intelligence insulted, then don't buy it...? (aka, vote with your wallet, and let others do the same)

Or you could pirate it. Not saying that you should...

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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post #63

This is a bug with the copyright system. The software is copyrighted and only Adobe can sell it. So they can sell what they want. One copyright reform I'd make, would be removing copyright protection from works like this where are sold as massively different rates between markets. You'd need to look at average wage in the country and compare (rather than a simple metric of 'can you fly to $OTHERCOUNTRY and buy it for…

I do seem to recall something Thomas Paine wrote about the inalienable natural right to the latest version of commercial creative software.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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post #111

As an Australian (now an NYC resident), I am no stranger to the price gouging that Australians have had to suffer although I must say that how it is now is much, much better than it was 10-20 years ago. First, it's worth noting that US prices don't include sales tax. Australian prices include a 10% GST. Second, international companies will end up doing their accounting in one currency. For tech companies unsurprising…

Besides the illegality of it, what's to stop me being a purchase broker for an Australian and buying US products then shipping them to Australia to people for a huge discount?

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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What I never get about this and the differences in pricing in movies, music, books, branded clothes, etc. is that this is all tacitly approved by all the governments. That Nike or Adobe or whomever can stop people from buying it cheaper in one country and then selling it at a profit in another country is frankly bizarre. But then they'll throw a fit at each other if one country says 'no, you can't sell you're cheap b…

The government doesn't have much to do with it, it's all contract law. Adobe makes a deal with a local distributor -- we won't sell directly into your territory, we will label our goods so you can discriminate (e.g. not provide service or upgrades for "grey market" products). The real scandal is that the sftware (or hardware) company sells its products at a wholesale price to the local distributor that prices in supp…

When the retail price is that different it's cheaper to buy at retail in the US than from the distributor in your home country. The only reason this does not happen is IP law in the home country in direct opposition of free trade.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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If you buy the US version of Adobe software then using it in another region is not allowed in their EULA. So it's almost the same as torrenting it except you paid for it. After a quick look I found these in their EULA:

"Adobe grants Customer a non-exclusive and limited license to install and use the Software (a) in the territory or region where Customer obtains the Software from Adobe or Adobe’s authorized reseller or as otherwise stated in the Documentation (“Territory”)"

"4.9 Territory. Customer shall only use the Software and access the Adobe Online Services in the Territory and in a manner consistent with the activation policy described at http://www.adobe.com/go/activation. Adobe may terminate the license granted herein or suspend the Membership or access to the Adobe Online Services if Adobe determines that Customer is using the Software or Adobe Online Services outside the Territory."

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