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Massive Dosing - the LSD Thumbprint

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Re: Massive Dosing - the LSD Thumbprint

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Post by erock »

cnp wrote: post #96

For anyone who is curious (or skeptical) about the incredible potential for psychedelic use in a therapeutic setting, I highly recommend this read: http://www.salon.com/2011/09/28/the_new_lsd_cure/ Probably the best general article I've read on the subject in recent times; it's also very hopeful.

you can also read what happens when you take it too far http://www.freeleonardpickard.org/Skinner-Timeline.html http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/awareness-politics/73509-tee... http://www.vice.com/read/life-is-a-cosmic-giggle-803-v18n5

of course rumor has it he would take DMT via IV for 8 + hours several times a week. I can only imagine what that would do to someone's mind (hint it wouldn't be pretty)

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Post by Tichy »

jpdoctor wrote: post #5

I note that "It's like tripping your balls off on LSD" is missing from the list. But, funny thing: It's the most accurate. Instead you get a bunch of gobbledygook about death, eternity, and direct messages from god. The fact that you might just be having an episode of impaired cognition does not actually enter your brain. Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

My first thought was "those people are high" :-)

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Post by virtualwhys »

derefr wrote: post #89
tytyty wrote: post #68

I take psychedelics on a regular basis. Usually a couple of times a month. Although I've done several hundred micrograms (there is really no way of knowing) of LSD at once, I also really enjoy experimenting with smaller doses and casually micro-dosing on work days. I happen to be a software engineer and try to apply my knowledge of "machines" to the psychedelic experience. While I don't believe in anything supernatur…

> I would speculate that LSD turns on System 2 where normally my System 1 brain would give me an immediate response. As far as I've read, LSD is, surprisingly, just a serotonin agonist, similar to anti-depressants or MDMA. (Technically, it's a non-selective serotonin agonist, and it does this by reversing the chemical reactions that take serotonin apart, to basically "un-use-up" serotonin you've already spent--which…

Thanks, succinct explanation of the tripping mind. Have always felt there was some level of distortion in the trips I've taken, as if something were being created from nothing.

Then again, that is the appeal of the trip, the mundane takes on a life of its own and becomes something else entirely -- the oh, now-I-get-it-what-a-fool-I've-been-experience, it's been here all along!

Later, returning to work, relationships, etc., the trip becomes a memory, some far more pronounced than others, but a memory nonetheless.

Life is a moving stream, nothing to hold on to here.

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Post by bane »

nessus42 wrote: post #33
oscilloscope wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Characterizing a subjective experience is not the same as experiencing the phenomena. If I look at brainwave data of a monk meditating, my experience is of looking at and interpreting data. I am not meditating.

The canonical thought experiment from philosophy is called "The Knowledge Argument". In it, you are asked to imagine a super-intelligent but color-blind since birth scientist named Mary who knows everything there is to know about human perception from a scientific point of view. (Btw, she's completely color-blind; she only sees in black & white.) Since she knows everything there is to know, surely she knows what it's…

it's the difference between knowledge and groking I suppose.

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Post by virtualwhys »

cnp wrote: post #93
zensavona wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's talking about using LSD as a party drug? It's certainly not even slightly suggested in the posted article or this response.

I've actually known quite a lot of people who have used LSD to that end. The Mushroom, however, is a different, more spiritual journey that is very difficult to evade.

I like that, "very difficult to evade", read: no escape ;-)

Then again, LSD, is not exactly easy to avoid, nor is Ayahuasca or any other class of hallucinogen.

In the woods or at party will of course have different expectations/outcomes. Will be intense regardless...

Re: Massive Dosing - the LSD Thumbprint

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Post by [deleted] »

cnp wrote: post #93
zensavona wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's talking about using LSD as a party drug? It's certainly not even slightly suggested in the posted article or this response.

I've actually known quite a lot of people who have used LSD to that end. The Mushroom, however, is a different, more spiritual journey that is very difficult to evade.

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Re: Massive Dosing - the LSD Thumbprint

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Post by [deleted] »

cnp wrote: post #93
zensavona wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's talking about using LSD as a party drug? It's certainly not even slightly suggested in the posted article or this response.

I've actually known quite a lot of people who have used LSD to that end. The Mushroom, however, is a different, more spiritual journey that is very difficult to evade.

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Re: Massive Dosing - the LSD Thumbprint

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Post by [deleted] »

cnp wrote: post #93
zensavona wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's talking about using LSD as a party drug? It's certainly not even slightly suggested in the posted article or this response.

I've actually known quite a lot of people who have used LSD to that end. The Mushroom, however, is a different, more spiritual journey that is very difficult to evade.

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Re: Massive Dosing - the LSD Thumbprint

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Post by mikeash »

nessus42 wrote: post #33
oscilloscope wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Characterizing a subjective experience is not the same as experiencing the phenomena. If I look at brainwave data of a monk meditating, my experience is of looking at and interpreting data. I am not meditating.

The canonical thought experiment from philosophy is called "The Knowledge Argument". In it, you are asked to imagine a super-intelligent but color-blind since birth scientist named Mary who knows everything there is to know about human perception from a scientific point of view. (Btw, she's completely color-blind; she only sees in black & white.) Since she knows everything there is to know, surely she knows what it's…

All this tells us is that we have trouble transferring conclusions from the rational bits of brain to the emotional bits. That no amount of secondhand experience will truly prepare you to experience itself doesn't mean there's something special about perception, just that the brain doesn't have any other way to take in what it perceives as the subjective experience.

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Post by Nursie »

caetano wrote: post #134

From my experiences involving meditation and psychedelics I find it to be an energetic transformation. Basically, the drugs alters the subject's energetic vibration which pushes awareness into different realms. The chakra model is a common map of these vibrations: http://www.grdn.cc/energy-slash-quality-slash-organ-slash-ac... Personally I'm finding some of these levels are achievable without the use of drugs. I used…

Yogis and spiritual guides in India seem mostly to be conmen.

The idea that they have some sort of key to advanced spiritual knowledge is popular in the west but thoroughly misguided.

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