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Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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Post by SkyMarshal »

mHORxaq wrote: post #22

I submitted articleak, which something very similar a few days ago, but it didn't get upvoted. Maybe people on Hacker News do not like Tor? The idea of using Tor is that the site is way harder for authorities to get down, and even if they do break Tor and get to the server, the users will still be entirely protected (there can't be any information about them in the logs or anything). link: http://articleak.allalla.co…

Whether you get upvoted or not has as much to do with time of day of submission and random factors as how much people like it.

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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Post by deutronium »

I'm wondering if you could do something like this automatically, so users with access to journals could download a little program, and then other users could send queries via a P2P program, which would end up at nodes with access to journals.

There could be various settings to ensure each node with access to journals throttle the amount of downloads.

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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Post by roel_v »

Toenex wrote: post #27
roel_v wrote: post #14

With the exception of old and obscure papers (i.e., 15 years or more and not cited in the last 5 years), I don't really see what the big problem is. I have yet to mail an author and not receive a pdf of the paper, usually within days, sometimes within minutes. When you have a reference and Google, you're seconds away from finding that author's current affiliation & email address. I once emailed the author of a book t…

I think I'm right in saying that by emailing you a copy of the PDF, many authors are breaking their contract with the publisher. It's a few years since I published an academic paper but I've certain signed over my rights more times that I care to recall. So while you can get a copy of the paper from the author officially that is not allowed. Thankfully most academics are not dickheads about this. The key problem with…

Sure, but the kind of 'paper sharing' services such as proposed by the OP have the same problem. Many journals do allow you to share your own article, although I don't know the details by hard nor would I even know where to start looking for the conditions of publishing of my own papers.

Your last two paragraphs illustrate my point, or rather the myopic viewpoint that these 'paper liberators' advocate - nobody outside of the HN crowd I know (and yes, this is limited to a few fields) even cares about this supposed 'stranglehold'. Well everybody grumbles every now and then, but at least nobody cares enough to really push for change, and the things people grumble about (slow editors, idiotic formatting requirements, ...) are mostly not solved by 'open access' journals. Everybody has access to their universities' libraries, or contacts the authors themselves, or has some research assistant dig them up for them. Yes yes the subscriptions cost the universities real money, but come on, much more money is wasted by universities on other trivial stuff. Look, I'm not saying the model is perfect, it's just that (IMO) it's not a big enough problem for actual researchers (as opposed to 'interwebs poasters with strong opinions about things they have little use for') to really matter.

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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Post by roel_v »

stared wrote: post #20
roel_v wrote: post #14

With the exception of old and obscure papers (i.e., 15 years or more and not cited in the last 5 years), I don't really see what the big problem is. I have yet to mail an author and not receive a pdf of the paper, usually within days, sometimes within minutes. When you have a reference and Google, you're seconds away from finding that author's current affiliation & email address. I once emailed the author of a book t…

Good luck with emailing authors of papers which are 70 years old. In mathematics good results never outdate, so there is no rule of thumb "if it is still relevant, author must be still alive".

But those perennial papers are usually so widely spread that a simple google search will bring them up, or otherwise somebody in the department will have a copy on their hard disk; so finding it is as simple as asking 'hey who has xyz' on the internal mailing list.

Maybe it's different in mathematics, I don't know, I'm just stating my experiences. Few fields are as long-lasting as mathematics, too, I think; in most fields, only a hand full of papers is still relevant after 20 years.

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Post by duked »

Toenex wrote: post #27
roel_v wrote: post #14

With the exception of old and obscure papers (i.e., 15 years or more and not cited in the last 5 years), I don't really see what the big problem is. I have yet to mail an author and not receive a pdf of the paper, usually within days, sometimes within minutes. When you have a reference and Google, you're seconds away from finding that author's current affiliation & email address. I once emailed the author of a book t…

I think I'm right in saying that by emailing you a copy of the PDF, many authors are breaking their contract with the publisher. It's a few years since I published an academic paper but I've certain signed over my rights more times that I care to recall. So while you can get a copy of the paper from the author officially that is not allowed. Thankfully most academics are not dickheads about this. The key problem with…

The "trick" is to provide a so called draft instead of the paper you have in the IEEE/ACM format, I wrote so called because it's usually the exact same content with a different formating. The only paper you are legally not allowed to share is the one with the publisher's template (LNCS/IEEE/ACM...). If you go to researcher's web page you'll find that most of them just upload a version without using the IEEE/ACM template on their public page to be on the safe side. However many people don't really care and upload the pdf from the proceeding even when they're not supposed to ;)

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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Post by user24 »

TimReynolds wrote: post #35

I got bored reading the post so started to look around the website. I think the Domains for Sale page ( http://www.jacquesmattheij.com/auction-of-domains-for-sale/ ) only clarifies my initial thoughts on this person.

... how does selling off unused domains relate to this at all?
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