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It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you allowed to do that? Or to put it another way, if you got raided by the BSA, would they have a problem with that?

how would they differentiate from someone like me, who has software bought in the US, while living in the US, but who now lives in the UK?

I imagine it's pretty easy to find out if someone has been living in the US within the past N month or not.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Its not only Aus. Example: price of Creative Suite® 6 Design Standard is USD1,299 versus GBP1,227, despite the fact that the exchange rate is around 1.55. For some stupid unknown reason, Adobe will usually charge the same unit price in GBP as they do in USD. They will quote "cost of operating" is higher in the UK, but 55% higher? Bullshit.

Don't forget the 20% VAT which is included in the British price. The US price doesn't include any tax.

though VAT makes up for some of the difference, it doesn't make up for nearly 1:1 USD:GBP pricing.

If they can charge it, they will.

That assumes all companies charging an extra percentage are actually paying their VAT bills as well.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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I wonder how the piracy rate in Australia (for CS and more generally) compares with that in the US. Anyone have any figures?

I work in the design industry in Australia, and it's very rare for anyone to have a legitimate copy. By no means quantitative data, but the piracy rate is probably quite high. Adobe doesn't exactly make it easy by dropping backwards compatibility for a version behind.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Can someone explain why tech stuff in general is quite a bit more expensive in Australia comparatively?

A lot of tech stuff is pretty cheap. Hardware which is sourced from Taiwan and other nearby tech supply countries are reasonably priced when landed by the smaller, sometimes Asian run firms.

The big retailers have a cartel like influence you could argue. Just about everything not made of pulverised rock or grown in pulverised rock is imported from somewhere. This allows what should be tech commodity businesses to charge what the market will bear, rather than competitive prices. A bit like mobile carriers in the states really.

Australia has a high tech take up, but its a very small market with a high dollar, so it's easy to get your dollars without worrying about volume.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Can someone explain why tech stuff in general is quite a bit more expensive in Australia comparatively?

Two main reasons. 1. Australia is a small market, so for a lot of things there are poor economies of scale and/or cozy oligopolies. 2. Exchange rates. Then along came: 3. Artificial market segmentation. Region encoding, per-country versions and so on. There's no technical reason for this, it's done simply because (thanks AUSFTA) it can be done. The artificial segmentation didn't used to be a big problem until the AUD…

Your last point is the most salient. Until downloadable software became all the rage in recent years, there was effectively nowhere else to buy from.

I once bought a new Thinkpad on ebay from a guy in New York who ordered them in sight:unseen to resell to Aussies. He had no idea why they were so expensive here, he just saw he could make a bob or two reselling the retail US models for 2/3rds the Aus price.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Voila, monopoly in action. I have both a grudging respect and an intense dislike of Adobe for their complete ownership of the creative software space. It's kind of amazing, and it's the clearest example of a monopoly that I experience in my everyday life. Well done, I guess?

  > Adobe for their complete ownership of the creative
  > software space
How is that their fault? What should they do, develop an alternative to Photoshop themselves?

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Looking for a Photoshop alternative ? Please take a look into Gimp, I'm using it for a long time now. If the money you pay for licensing Photoshop was put in new creative ideas in Gimp, I'm pretty sure it would look as awesome, as Photoshop! Take a look please :)

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Can someone explain why tech stuff in general is quite a bit more expensive in Australia comparatively?

I've heard that setting up shop is quite expensive in Australia due to a number of factors, and that the online prices is matched up to the retail price to avoid hurting profits.

Starting a business in Australia is ridiculously expensive. In the UK it's £20 ( last time I looked ). In Australia it was $900 or so when I looked. Lots of regulations on this and that. My pet theory is that it started out militaristically and has stayed that way ever since.

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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These articles take the wrong perspective - it's not that Australia is much more expensive in tech matters, it's that the US is much more cheap. I don't know where the recent Australia-specific articles are coming from, but it's been like this since as long as I can remember - that the US is much more cheap than any other country I'm familiar with for tech stuff, including Australia, but also almost every other count…

>I don't know where the recent Australia-specific articles are coming from

I think they are coming from the inquiry into overblown prices that the Australian government is currently pursuing: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/16114230/tech-gian...

Re: It is cheaper to fly to US than buy Adobe software in Australia

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Can someone explain why tech stuff in general is quite a bit more expensive in Australia comparatively?

Maybe be taxes. I assume Adobe is pumping Australian revenue to its Ireland unit while the US revenue goes through the main company. Maximize revenue overseas since the profit is taxed at a lower rate effective rate. Just a guess.

"The revenues generated by Adobe’s Irish unit represent 55 per cent of Adobe’s worldwide revenues of $4.2 billion in the year to the end of December 2nd 2011"

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/1012/122432...

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