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Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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That said, I subscribed to the online MS Office suite (w/ SkyDrive and some other goodies) a few days ago and I'm impressed. The Microsoft user experience is pretty slick nowadays.

I've even switched from Google to Bing and Chrome to Internet Explorer for a month. At first the "newness" of it all was a bit jarring, like navagating an alien landscape, but after only a few days I don't think I'm ever going back.

Do yourself a solid and give it a test drive.

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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What if you install Office on a VM? Can you run the VM from multiple machines? Can you move the VM from your old computer to your newer computer?

You 'Can'. The issue is Microsoft doesn't think you should (I believe you have to use a VL).

As for Windows VMs, I've found if you keep what is presented to Windows stable, it doesn't know the difference. Keep the MAC address on the network card static (this means you can't run two copies on the same network at the same time, which by the license you shouldn't anyway). After running on a number of different processors Windows may want to reauthorize though.

It would not be surprising if they put code that detected a VM in Win8 and Office 2013 some time in the future (or it's already hidden there)

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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I suppose its a vaguely interesting technical point regarding terms and conditions, but in reality people will just go ahead and reinstall it anyway - with no penalty. I don't really see how this EULA change actually changes anything in practice.

Is that possible? I'm not the software will allow it. The OEM version phones home with your license key during install.

I've done it before with Office 2010, but I must admit I've not tried the latest 2013.

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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What if you install Office on a VM? Can you run the VM from multiple machines? Can you move the VM from your old computer to your newer computer?

You 'Can'. The issue is Microsoft doesn't think you should (I believe you have to use a VL). As for Windows VMs, I've found if you keep what is presented to Windows stable, it doesn't know the difference. Keep the MAC address on the network card static (this means you can't run two copies on the same network at the same time, which by the license you shouldn't anyway). After running on a number of different processor…

>It would not be surprising if they put code that detected a VM in Win8 and Office 2013 some time in the future.

That would be really unfortunate. I run Windows 8 Pro in a VM with a valid license, mostly for the purpose of using Office 2013, which is also a valid license.

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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How do you define device? The CPU? The storage? The specific instance of the install? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

I imagine it will be like some forms of DRM. If you change even a hard disk, the entire copy is invalidated, as it's a 'different' computer.

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You 'Can'. The issue is Microsoft doesn't think you should (I believe you have to use a VL). As for Windows VMs, I've found if you keep what is presented to Windows stable, it doesn't know the difference. Keep the MAC address on the network card static (this means you can't run two copies on the same network at the same time, which by the license you shouldn't anyway). After running on a number of different processor…

>It would not be surprising if they put code that detected a VM in Win8 and Office 2013 some time in the future. That would be really unfortunate. I run Windows 8 Pro in a VM with a valid license, mostly for the purpose of using Office 2013, which is also a valid license.

I realise that software like VMWare present their virtual devices as their own brand ('VMWare Network Adaptor' and alike), but isn't one of the points of virtualisation that the client doesn't know it's being run in a VM? At least I presume you could make the VM completely transparent, short of running timing tests on the virtual devices.

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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The only thing holding me back from going completely to Google Docs is the spreadsheet. For anything real, the Google Spreadsheet is simply not usable. It's a great proof of concept, and it works for small, unuseful spreadsheets, but for doing anything substantive, Excel is several orders of magnitude better.

I don't care if I need to install a separate, native executable/plugin in order to get better performance. If Google offers something that is usable, I would gladly switch to Google Docs.

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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The only thing holding me back from going completely to Google Docs is the spreadsheet. For anything real, the Google Spreadsheet is simply not usable. It's a great proof of concept, and it works for small, unuseful spreadsheets, but for doing anything substantive, Excel is several orders of magnitude better. I don't care if I need to install a separate, native executable/plugin in order to get better performance. If…

I tend to agree - particularly on interactivity/performance - Is there something else that you're missing though?

That said, every time I use Google Spreadsheets I'm surprised at much it's rapidly improving.

Re: Does your copy of Office 2013 die with your computer?

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How do you define device? The CPU? The storage? The specific instance of the install? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

I remember this same type of question coming up before Windows XP came out. I wonder if it'd be something similar to this:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-...

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