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Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

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Post by JoshTriplett »

ceejayoz wrote: post #32
Osmose wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A warning is fine, but I just hate it when a site doesn't even let me try in another browser. I use Firefox Nightly, maybe it fixed the issues that are breaking your app? If you're detecting via user agent, what if I use an odd user agent? What if I want to look at the web console to see just what breaks in case I know what the issue is?

> I use Firefox Nightly, maybe it fixed the issues that are breaking your app? If it's using -webkit prefixed CSS, that's pretty unlikely. > What if I want to look at the web console to see just what breaks in case I know what the issue is? Anyone interested in doing that should be well aware of how to spoof a user agent.

> If it's using -webkit prefixed CSS, that's pretty unlikely.

Unsupported CSS features should not affect the functionality of a web app, only its appearance. Emphasis on "should"; far too many web apps end up fundamentally broken when this happens.

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

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Post by dr_win »

dr_win wrote: post #20
znowi wrote: post #10

"STOP! WebKit is required here. The Comix Editor was tested under Chrome. It uses some webkit-specific tricks." WebKit - the new IE.

It doesn't work under FF Nightly. I'm sorry this was a quick way how to deal with the issue. I don't want to deal with complains "it is broken / it doesn't work for me". I'm going to push new version which will allow you to continue over that warning.

Updated, refresh your caches: https://github.com/darwin/cmx.io/commit/02ae7bc5b37cfc3117f8...

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

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Post by nvr219 »

corin_ wrote: post #11
nvr219 wrote: post #2

Awesome! I love it. My favorite xkcd-inspired hack is still goatkcd[1] though. [1] NSFW http://goatkcd.com : goatse parody

At first glance I agreed with the downvoters, but... assuming this isn't updated manually, would be interested to see the code behind it, as it generates comic images which only replace the last frame with goatse. For example (and this is obviously NSWF and shows a goatse picture) http://goatkcd.com/strips/1170.jpg

At the risk of getting downvoted even more I will share with you that this is done automatically. The guy that made that site wrote a script that detects the last panel of an xkcd strip. I will see if I can get him to share more because it really is cool.

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

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Post by baddox »

znowi wrote: post #10

"STOP! WebKit is required here. The Comix Editor was tested under Chrome. It uses some webkit-specific tricks." WebKit - the new IE.

The main problem with IE wasn't that it was an exclusive product incompatible with other browsers. The problem was that it was bad. I'm not a fan of people only supporting WebKit, but at least WebKit browsers are good.

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

#45

Post by dmbass »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #41
ceejayoz wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I use Firefox Nightly, maybe it fixed the issues that are breaking your app? If it's using -webkit prefixed CSS, that's pretty unlikely. > What if I want to look at the web console to see just what breaks in case I know what the issue is? Anyone interested in doing that should be well aware of how to spoof a user agent.

> If it's using -webkit prefixed CSS, that's pretty unlikely. Unsupported CSS features should not affect the functionality of a web app, only its appearance. Emphasis on "should"; far too many web apps end up fundamentally broken when this happens.

Well how do you expect it to work when the functionality is to change the appearance?

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

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Post by dr_win »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #41
ceejayoz wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I use Firefox Nightly, maybe it fixed the issues that are breaking your app? If it's using -webkit prefixed CSS, that's pretty unlikely. > What if I want to look at the web console to see just what breaks in case I know what the issue is? Anyone interested in doing that should be well aware of how to spoof a user agent.

> If it's using -webkit prefixed CSS, that's pretty unlikely. Unsupported CSS features should not affect the functionality of a web app, only its appearance. Emphasis on "should"; far too many web apps end up fundamentally broken when this happens.

I think something like web-based SVG editor is pushing browser limits too far (some folks reported it crashed Chrome for them). CSS is not "just styling" here. It has functional meaning. For example invalid z-ordering, visibility or cursors can pretty much ruin the experience.

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

#47

Post by nvr219 »

zwegner wrote: post #37
nvr219 wrote: post #2

Awesome! I love it. My favorite xkcd-inspired hack is still goatkcd[1] though. [1] NSFW http://goatkcd.com : goatse parody

Not sure why you're getting downvoted so much, that's hilarious!

I really tried to be as clear as possible regarding the contents of the link, not sure how I could have made it clearer... maybe if I wrote "goatse/parody" instead of "goatse parody"? I think it's definitely relevant considering the technology behind it and the comic it's lampooning.

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

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Post by eggbrain »

dr_win wrote: post #26
eggbrain wrote: post #21

Here's my problem. It works, fairly well. But I spent about 15 minutes doing one panel, trying to figure out the minor nuances. I kept thinking to myself "I could do a whole comic in about 5 minutes in photoshop" as I adjusted the person's location, arm, speech, etc (and that was just modifying the characters that were already in the scene). In the end it was just not worth it in my mind. Also, imagine creating somet…

Yes, this a prototype and definitely not for everyone. It has many downsides. I agree Photoshop gives you full pixel control. I think it has some upsides too. You may treat comix source as html code and apply tools we have for coding today, eg. diffs, version control, collaboration via github. People may also collaborate on library of items, actors and their poses, so you don't have to re-create them or copy&pase all…

I agree it has some great upsides. I love the idea of localization, and version control is nice to easily revert changes, etc. Having a scalable comic that can change text on the fly is something that I've been hoping for for a long time.

But I think you're strongest element is the WYSIWYG editor, as most people aren't going to be coding from only the HTML view (unless they know what pose="-11,9|-5,117|-11,99" will look like in their heads). But the WYSIWIG interface is still pretty anemic, meaning I'm going to run into roadblocks faster (such as -- how do I create something like a tree? How can I add a hat to the man?).

Re: Show HN: a web-based xkcd-style comix editor

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Post by wazoox »

baddox wrote: post #44
znowi wrote: post #10

"STOP! WebKit is required here. The Comix Editor was tested under Chrome. It uses some webkit-specific tricks." WebKit - the new IE.

The main problem with IE wasn't that it was an exclusive product incompatible with other browsers. The problem was that it was bad. I'm not a fan of people only supporting WebKit, but at least WebKit browsers are good .

I used IE briefly in 2000 and 2001, before Mozilla (0.9) became usable enough and Phoenix came out; back then (IE 5.5 to IE 6.0) it definitely was the best browser, by far.
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