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Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

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Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

#11
What if Google refuses to pay? Will Apple remove Google as default search engine on iOS? Recall what happend when they replaced Google maps? Nah, I didn't think so.

Clearly, someone at Morgan Stanley, who came up with this bollocks, must have been wearing their pair of Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses most of the time last year, when the maps fiasko took place.

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

#12
This report is full of hedging. Examples from the opening paragraph:

According to a report from Morgan Stanley, Google could pay more than $1 billion in 2014 to remain the default search engine on iOS. In 2009, Google paid only $82 million for the privilege. Analyst Scott Devitt believes that it is a per-device deal growing every year.

Is there hard evidence that any of this isn't just speculation?

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

#14
It sounds to me like this is a per device deal. It makes sense that the number would grow annually. From what I saw in the article it doesn't make mention that Apple is extorting this money out of Google either. It seems that people see the 1 Billion dollar figure and assume something sinister is afoot. I would not doubt that this figure was the result of negotiations between the two companies.

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

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Google should let it lapse, nothing would say that iOS devices are no longer the cool thing to own then having Bing or a lousy Apple brewed search engine be the default.

Why not just present users with a choice? I imagine no more than a single digit percentage would choose something other than Google, but it'd be enough to hit them and send a message.

I'd also be interested in the potential legal angles here: since Google are competing with Apple in a separate market, are they allowed to use their position as search leader to harm Apple? (e.g. by not offering similar deals it offers to other organisations like Mozilla, knowing that Apple doesn't have a choice but to use them anyway?) I suspect not, at least now now Bing is a viable alternative, but maybe a few years ago it'd have been a different story.

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

#16

To be honest wouldn't Google search disappearing from iOS devices play in google's advantage looking at their Nexus devices? I mean ... what are the odds Apple comes up with something beter, even third party?

Bing is likely good enough for the likes of my parents.

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

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My parents are not tech savvy. However, they do know to 'Google' it. While they may not know how to change the home page it doesn't matter what device they are on. They go to Google to search. Even if that means finding Google through Bing. If they are doing this.. I wonder how much value this will actually be.

Do your parents know how to change the default search engine on iOS? The desktop is a different beast than mobile; I think most mobile users just use the "search field" and find what they want. (Edited for typo)

Note that the GP said, "Even if that means finding Google through Bing."

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

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My parents are not tech savvy. However, they do know to 'Google' it. While they may not know how to change the home page it doesn't matter what device they are on. They go to Google to search. Even if that means finding Google through Bing. If they are doing this.. I wonder how much value this will actually be.

Do your parents know how to change the default search engine on iOS? The desktop is a different beast than mobile; I think most mobile users just use the "search field" and find what they want. (Edited for typo)

I think his point was that his parents don't just use the search field -- they use google. That is, they'll search for google and then they'll search for what they want. If google ever quits paying apple, this is the bet they'll be making. Who knows if they're right.

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

#19
I notice there's quite a large discrepancy between the link title on HN and the actual article title. The "to" makes it sound like the deal is done but the article really just seems like speculation. Is this TC just desperate for more HN clicks?

Re: Google Could Pay Apple $1B Next Year To Remain Default Search Engine On iOS

#20

To be honest wouldn't Google search disappearing from iOS devices play in google's advantage looking at their Nexus devices? I mean ... what are the odds Apple comes up with something beter, even third party?

You have to remember that search is Google's core business, it's where they make their money (well, advertising really, but advertising in search).
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