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Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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This is petty compared to the purpose of the startup, but the typography/use of ligatures on the site is fantastic.

I thought the opposite -- the ligatures seem like they're supposed to make the company look fancy, but when combined with the photos of the founders I just felt creeped out.

I actually helped out with this design, would love some further note as to what felt "creepy" about it. Thanks for the feedback!

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#82

Hey HN: (while we're discussing family law) someone please make a startup that improves adoptions and/or surrogacy. The fees are intense. $20k, 50k, 100k gets dropped left and right in this space. (Never underestimate the human drive to reproduce!) Most of that goes to agencies (who do good work, but incredibly inefficiently) and to foreign governments (if international). All to adopt kids that need a good home. Navi…

Here is some interesting statistics on adoption and costs:

http://www.statisticbrain.com/adoption-statistics/

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#83

So, we have startups that help get people get together, startups that help people marry, and now startups that help through divorce. If I were an entrepreneur, I'd cut out the middle man and vertically integrate all three into one startup.

You mean something like the church?

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#85
post #68

Hey HN: (while we're discussing family law) someone please make a startup that improves adoptions and/or surrogacy. The fees are intense. $20k, 50k, 100k gets dropped left and right in this space. (Never underestimate the human drive to reproduce!) Most of that goes to agencies (who do good work, but incredibly inefficiently) and to foreign governments (if international). All to adopt kids that need a good home. Navi…

I heartily recommend becoming a foster parent through your state children/family services agency. It's an oft overlooked route to adoption and, despite a million frustrations of its own, has worked much better for us than private adoption seems to/would have.

My wife and I took this route in Massachusetts. We were VERY lucky from the start and quickly had a baby placed in our home on the "adoption" track rather than "reunification". It was a long road due to legal issues with the birth mother, but the end result was an adoption with $0 in legal fees paid by us. In fact, during this time the state considered us foster parents and we got a small subsidy every month.

If you have more time than money, the foster care route is definitely a good option. Plus, there are a LOT of kids in foster care waiting for a permanent home.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#86
post #8

This is petty compared to the purpose of the startup, but the typography/use of ligatures on the site is fantastic.

I thought the opposite -- the ligatures seem like they're supposed to make the company look fancy, but when combined with the photos of the founders I just felt creeped out.

I also immediately noticed the ligatures and found them disturbing too. I'm not sure I can explain why but I'll try.

It may be because the first and most prominent ligature is in the title... and the word "suck"

- ligatures are unusual, even in print, let alone on the web => they're distracting (I found myself chasing them on the page to see if they were also in the article -- turns out they're only used in some subtitles, but the rule isn't clear to me)

- ligatures are kind of "classy" (?), and the phrase "suck less" is very colloquial => the contrast is unpleasant (like seeing someone in a tuxedo, covered in mud)

Finally, the home page of wefunder is completely different, with basic sans used for copy (font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;) and 'ChunkFiveRoman' for titles (?)

In short, the typography seems to be a little all over the place (but that's just my opinion).

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#87
I don't understand how this is a "startup" in YC/PG's sense of "growth machine".

From the article, the purpose of wevorce is to offer a new approach to divorce, where just one lawyer works for the whole family (partners + kids), instead of the usual arrangement where each partner fights the other to death.

This certainly sounds like a good idea, but isn't it just a kind of counseling business (the Accenture of divorce)?

Even if they can speed up the paperwork a little, at least one lawyer will still be needed for every "customer" (couple divorcing), so how does this scale in a startup sense?

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#88
post #72
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heartily recommend becoming a foster parent through your state children/family services agency. It's an oft overlooked route to adoption and, despite a million frustrations of its own, has worked much better for us than private adoption seems to/would have.

I have no experience, so please excuse this if it's insensitive, but isn't the difference between adopting and being a foster parent the fact that as a foster parent you are only a temporary guardian for the child? i.e. they usually have parents they would go back to eventually?

It's called Fost-adopt in our state. When a child is taken from a home they have to put them somewhere. If you let them know you want to adopt then they will give you children with a very high chance of never being able to return to the parents. Instead of paying for adoption you get paid. Up to about $1,500/mo pre-adoption.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#89

"Wevorce is already having success. While living in Idaho, Michelle ran a beta test. She put 104 families through the system and only one went to court." This was the part that was most surprising to me. That's an incredibly good success rate (albiet with a small test) for something that's trying to mediate such a polarized situation. All it takes is either party not being satisfied with what they got to push it to c…

Careful: there's also a self-selection effect here. Only those couples who have a fairly good chance at a somewhat amicable separation would even try a service like this. Wevorce would probably have a much lower success rate with 104 randomly selected families going through divorce.

For a scientific study you are absolutely correct, however, this is a business and in business you only deal with the self-selecting group that would use your service. The better question would be what percentage of the market would actually use this service, especially knowing that it has and over 99% success rate. In my experience women often want a fast divorce and men want a cheap one so if she can provide that she has a winning business proposition.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

#90

So, we have startups that help get people get together, startups that help people marry, and now startups that help through divorce. If I were an entrepreneur, I'd cut out the middle man and vertically integrate all three into one startup.

Genius idea. We can target engaged couples and offer to pay for their divorce and wedding as package deal. We could be profitable charging $1,800 if this service costs $6,000. Here some quick math:

70% of first marriages will end in divorce so we wont have to pay anything.

The other 30% will average 8 years before we have to pay. If we invest the float at 10% we can double our money by the time they divorce.

Total cost: $900/marriage

Best part is, when they come to us to cash in we sell each of them a new wedding/divorce package.

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