Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

dear-apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 88 posts

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#11

Post by firedev »

prezjordan wrote: post #5

I've found that Chrome works especially poorly with a weak internet connection. When I'm tethering from my phone, Chrome sometimes cannot load webpages (I have to close tabs and reopen), whereas on Safari I don't experience this issue. Could be all my extensions though?

Chrome was my weapon of choice but I am moved to a new house and this Error 324 issue started. Click reload and the very same page I was just looking at doesn't work anymore. It affects sites with CloudFlare as far as I could figure, but all other browsers are working fine.

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#12

Post by jonemo »

I am surprised you are writing this about Apple (I rarely use Apple products and hence don't know much about their quality) but I wholeheartedly agree on that title of yours in general. I increasingly feel like all products I use are in beta.

I used to blame manufacturers for this, but recently I have come to the conclusion that consumers are to blame. Nobody cares about longevity and build quality of products any more. Read some product reviews on Amazon and you'll notice most of them are written within days of purchasing the product. Go to Techcrunch and most of the product reviews there seem to be written before they used the damn thing.

tl,dr: If we incentivize designers and manufacturers to neglect quality over specs, we get the crap we get these days.

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#13

Post by firedev »

pjmlp wrote: post #9

This is why the computing industry should move away from this behaviour and into what is common in other industries, where if something is broken the seller is accountable for it.

Apple doesn't even have an open bug-tracker. That alone could improve a lot. discussions.apple.com is full of issue-discussing threads with thousands of replies, but nobody gives a damn.

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#14

Post by moakleaf »

Honestly, this is ridiculous. I have experienced none of these issues. I use Preview and Color Picker all the time. Both Chrome and Safari works always for me. My iPhone 4 did not have a home-button issue, so it is definitely not 100% bad. I don't need to restart iTunes all he time. I use Mail with 15 accounts and 50000 messages across multiple servers. No problems! None... Zero... It really just works for me. Xcode sucks, but is becoming a lot less sucky with every new release.

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#15

Post by batterseapower »

As soon as I stopped building computers from off-the-shelf parts, stopped installing unpopular applications and plugins and stopped trying to use OSes like Linux with relatively few users the amount of my life I spent fixing weird computer problems fell from hours per week to almost zero.

When I do encounter a problem, the answer is almost always available after 5 minutes on Google.

Following the herd leads to an easy life. Go figure.

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#16

Post by firedev »

officemonkey wrote: post #10

We have a lot of the same problems in my home too. My wife's computer, iPhone, and iPad refuse to behave with her email. I'm using an old iMac as a media server, but every time I connect remotely using Team Viewer, it complains that I don't have a mouse attached. My new iPod touch still won't sync remotely. We were Apple fans "back in the day" (1990s) because it all "just works." The funny thing is my new Desktop/Gam…

I think they need to stop adding new stuff and fix what's already released. Snow Leopard was the best version of OS X because they did exactly that. Bug fixing. No new stuff.

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#17

Post by revelation »

Karunamon wrote: post #8

Invariably it seems the majority of people who have these problems have done something to their computer. Either downloading an app they shouldn't have, or playing with settings they shouldn't have, or there's a hardware issues (power/memory problems will cause all manner of weird behavior) Something along those lines. The problems mentioned here are simply not shared by most users. Show of hands, how many Apple user…

Thats a healthy dose of reality distortion. He lists specific flaws in specific applications.

Re: Everything just doesn't work and nobody cares

#18

Post by firedev »

Karunamon wrote: post #8

Invariably it seems the majority of people who have these problems have done something to their computer. Either downloading an app they shouldn't have, or playing with settings they shouldn't have, or there's a hardware issues (power/memory problems will cause all manner of weird behavior) Something along those lines. The problems mentioned here are simply not shared by most users. Show of hands, how many Apple user…

I can assure you, I don't install anything I shouldn't, I just USE my hardware. Not just "sending emails, receiving email", but doing work on them all day, every day. And this is when the issues start to come up.

Only then you start noticing little things like how headers in those 'Group by' modes in Finder obscure the actual file names, that you can't sort files in the Open window, that every time you try to save the file with a new name it offers you to save to iCloud, etc..

Post reply on HN