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Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by Wintamute »

mark_integerdsv wrote: post #60
gbog wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is nice with alien is that we really don't know. So the sentence above tells much more about your pessimism than about aliens.

I tend toward a similar pessimism. Hawking has said that we need only look at the history of inter-species relationships on our planet (let alone race relationships) to get a hint of what exopolitics might look like. He goes on to mention that in terms of the search for alien life, we'd do best to keep our heads low.

It's too late for keeping our heads low. There's a sphere of EM radiation travelling at 3x10^8 m/s that started expanding out from Earth about the time that we turned on the first radio set. It announces our presence to anything capable listening.

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

rsheridan6 wrote: post #36
cgag wrote: post #29

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I can't imagine there's anyone on this forum who doesn't want it to be alien technology.

I don't. If aliens exist and are able to travel to our vicinity, we're probably screwed as a species.

I love (sarcasm) how a supposedly technologically superior and enlightened species of non-earth intelligent beings would only be out to destroy or punish us, according to science fiction and a lot of people.

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

lilsunnybee wrote: post #46
mixedbit wrote: post #44

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More likely this may be human created with Photoshop.

That should be easy for nasa to invalidate this finding then.

I'm sure they can see from the pixels and from seeing quite a bit of shoops in their time ;)

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by kzrdude »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #63
rsheridan6 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't. If aliens exist and are able to travel to our vicinity, we're probably screwed as a species.

I love (sarcasm) how a supposedly technologically superior and enlightened species of non-earth intelligent beings would only be out to destroy or punish us, according to science fiction and a lot of people.

Do you remember what happened when the europeans travelled around the world? 90% of populations died from new illnesses. They basically saw nothing ill in settling and displacing the remaining population.

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by motters »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #11

Does anyone know NASA's policy on further observation of crowd-sourced findings? BTW, you absolutely have to love the tack NASA has taken with making images virtually immediately available for the public to consume and research. Imagine if the Curiosity photo archives were only made available months after the fact - it'd be too late to do anything based off of community findings! Way to go team!

Heh. I don't really consume images. I just view them.

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by superrad »

Wintamute wrote: post #61
mark_integerdsv wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend toward a similar pessimism. Hawking has said that we need only look at the history of inter-species relationships on our planet (let alone race relationships) to get a hint of what exopolitics might look like. He goes on to mention that in terms of the search for alien life, we'd do best to keep our heads low.

It's too late for keeping our heads low. There's a sphere of EM radiation travelling at 3x10^8 m/s that started expanding out from Earth about the time that we turned on the first radio set. It announces our presence to anything capable listening.

After a few light years non focused radio/tv transmissions will drop off into background noise. Active SETI is what's needed to send a signal to other planets

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by argonaut »

mark_integerdsv wrote: post #59
edmccard wrote: post #35

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No, it's just the more reasonable. Most likely it's not any kind of artifact, but we have a lot more evidence for the existence of man-made spacecraft than we do for alien spacecraft, and Mars is a lot closer to Earth than it is to anywhere aliens might come from.

Hmmm... I'm not sure we have reasonable evidence either way on this thing. At face value it is a seemingly artificial object where (reasonably) such a thing should not be, and (reasonably) you cannot honestly claim to know where in the universe aliens might come from.

Please stop butchering Occam's Razor.

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Post by brianchu »

hdivider wrote: post #6

I'm certainly not an expert on this, but I'd say the most important number to think about when looking at rover images is the scale . "the little protuberance is probably about 0.5 cm tall, or even smaller." Five mm is obviously tiny. Keep this in mind before making up hypotheses as to what the thing is. =) We have to wait until better data is available. What's fascinating in itself though is that no person, however…

Not to nitpick, but the fact that we can't rule out that possibility is nothing special.

You cannot rule out the possibility that when you drop a ball it won't fall to the ground. Empirical reasoning does not operate in absolutes. Only inductive reasoning operates that way.

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