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Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by jabagonuts »

wglb wrote: post #9
sergiotapia wrote: post #3

Ruby pulled me out of C# hell and allowed me to see other open source stacks and for that I love it. I'm so happy now that I can work with a clean language with a small difficulty curve. I look like a wizard to management! I'm not working on projects with millions of daily users, just simple CRUD enterprisey apps, and Ruby and Rails are my Virgil, guiding me through programming hell. :P

Curious what were the worst pain points of C# for you?

I have to be careful about tendonitis flare ups in my wrist from my musician days. That makes languages like Java and C# literally more painful than languages like ruby that require less typing.

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by steveklabnik »

richardjordan wrote: post #10
eduardordm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Languages like ruby and python democratize programming. Learning programming with C is like having a 25 years old mother of 2 as your first girlfriend.

Ha! So true. I am currently teaching my 8yo programming, or rather in the process of building a set of teaching tools for her - right now things are very early stage, and she's busy playing VIM Adventures to familiarize herself to the keyboard and keystrokes. I'm trying to decide between Ruby and Python, which has the highly recommended Snake Wrangling For Kids going for it.

There's KidsRuby and Hackety Hack on the Ruby side.

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by richardjordan »

richardjordan wrote: post #10
eduardordm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Languages like ruby and python democratize programming. Learning programming with C is like having a 25 years old mother of 2 as your first girlfriend.

Ha! So true. I am currently teaching my 8yo programming, or rather in the process of building a set of teaching tools for her - right now things are very early stage, and she's busy playing VIM Adventures to familiarize herself to the keyboard and keystrokes. I'm trying to decide between Ruby and Python, which has the highly recommended Snake Wrangling For Kids going for it.

Currently been going through HacketyHack with her... she just made a star appear on the screen :-)

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by steveklabnik »

richardjordan wrote: post #13
richardjordan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha! So true. I am currently teaching my 8yo programming, or rather in the process of building a set of teaching tools for her - right now things are very early stage, and she's busy playing VIM Adventures to familiarize herself to the keyboard and keystrokes. I'm trying to decide between Ruby and Python, which has the highly recommended Snake Wrangling For Kids going for it.

Currently been going through HacketyHack with her... she just made a star appear on the screen :-)

There are some small issues with Hackety, including one bug in a tutorial. We're working hard on fixing our big upstream dependency before being able to do another release, but please let me know what you think.

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by rdrake »

richardjordan wrote: post #10
eduardordm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Languages like ruby and python democratize programming. Learning programming with C is like having a 25 years old mother of 2 as your first girlfriend.

Ha! So true. I am currently teaching my 8yo programming, or rather in the process of building a set of teaching tools for her - right now things are very early stage, and she's busy playing VIM Adventures to familiarize herself to the keyboard and keystrokes. I'm trying to decide between Ruby and Python, which has the highly recommended Snake Wrangling For Kids going for it.

If you do decide to do some Python:

http://docs.python.org/2/library/turtle.html

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by VeejayRampay »

eduardordm wrote: post #5
richardjordan wrote: post #2

Ruby rescued me from a life of non-programming. I'm happy to see 2.0 inching closer. I graduated Physics in 1995 and my programming experience had been hobbyist on my Apple II at home as a kid or on my Physics course projects, in simple languages. All my friends went into tech in some way or other mostly programming. I looked at C but after a little poking it scared the heck out of me and, intimidated I gave up and d…

Languages like ruby and python democratize programming. Learning programming with C is like having a 25 years old mother of 2 as your first girlfriend.

OR it is having a mature and charming 35 year-old with lots of experience as your first girlfriend/boyfriend.

The gap is huge at first but with the growing relationship you learn about all the intricate details of being with someone on a daily basis, which can make all subsequent relationships much easier to handle.

C is rough, it's roots, but it doesn't distort the programmer in any way and teaches very sane principles as much as the innards of the machine, which is always a plus for all further endeavours. Just my two cents.

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by dmethvin »

steveklabnik wrote: post #8
zopticity wrote: post #4

Why do we have a post about the release candidate? Is this to raise awareness for the release or something. It doesn't seem to make sense to post about all version. If we did this, Chrome browser would be nuts considering how many versions it goes through!

> It doesn't seem to make sense to post about all version. 2.0.0 is kind of a big deal. It's not just any random version. Furthermore, projects always have trouble getting people to actually use release candidates. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen a project where two or three RCs get released, issues are fixed, and when final comes out, people complain "omg there's so many bugs." They would have been fi…

Preach it brother! The people who don't care about the RC are the ones who jump on it day 1 of the release because it's "finally ready" and then complain about the bugs.

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by jrabone »

eduardordm wrote: post #5
richardjordan wrote: post #2

Ruby rescued me from a life of non-programming. I'm happy to see 2.0 inching closer. I graduated Physics in 1995 and my programming experience had been hobbyist on my Apple II at home as a kid or on my Physics course projects, in simple languages. All my friends went into tech in some way or other mostly programming. I looked at C but after a little poking it scared the heck out of me and, intimidated I gave up and d…

Languages like ruby and python democratize programming. Learning programming with C is like having a 25 years old mother of 2 as your first girlfriend.

Learning programming with Ruby is like sex with your 14 year old GF. Neither of you know what to do but it's SO EXCITING! Then you find out she's pregnant and you'll be supporting her for the next 18 years.

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by jrabone »

jabagonuts wrote: post #11
wglb wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious what were the worst pain points of C# for you?

I have to be careful about tendonitis flare ups in my wrist from my musician days. That makes languages like Java and C# literally more painful than languages like ruby that require less typing.

Why is control-space so difficult? Christ, Eclipse auto completes so much you can just bounce on control-space all day. "m" ctrl-space "sysout" ctrl-space... It's so easy.

Re: Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 is released

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Post by wuest »

VeejayRampay wrote: post #16
eduardordm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Languages like ruby and python democratize programming. Learning programming with C is like having a 25 years old mother of 2 as your first girlfriend.

OR it is having a mature and charming 35 year-old with lots of experience as your first girlfriend/boyfriend. The gap is huge at first but with the growing relationship you learn about all the intricate details of being with someone on a daily basis, which can make all subsequent relationships much easier to handle. C is rough, it's roots, but it doesn't distort the programmer in any way and teaches very sane princip…

I couldn't have said it better. C provides a wonderful set of glasses through which other languages make excellent sense.
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