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Re: Aggressive negative advertising by Microsoft against Google.

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Just to compare I searched for "insects in pleistocene", and guess what, no ads, zero, no sites from "advertisers" too. Ah, well there is an entry from google books, in 5th position, crap, I certainly didn't want to know that somebody wrote a book about that... Wow you got me, you are so smart. Google has no ads for those words so they put no ads. Proof that they are fair and unbiased. Google makes most of their mone…

You are taking for granted that when you don't search for something you don't get ads. But that's something that's very specific about standard that was set by google with its non intrusive ads. Most of the other commercial sites, including search engines, were filled with blinking banners trying to sell you anything, even if you just searched for boring entomology. (The same pattern is repeating with ads in mobile a…

standard that was set by google with its non intrusive ads.

The content is non-intrusive, ads are everywhere.

You will find the same old crap of booking aggregators and resellers and cheap offers whatever. That's because the content is what it is. Companies would do nasty tricks to end up higher in that free-open search engine, exploiting fake content (I mean, there is already plenty of that stuff already, so I guess you know what I mean)..

Google is supposed to be neutral, not force sites to advertise for traffic. In case you didn't know, aggregators like Expedia often have the lowest price. Not the 745223587 ads you see per page, and especially not Google travel.

Re: Aggressive negative advertising by Microsoft against Google.

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"All of the original Surface reviews were negative" No they're not? Then you haven't read ALL of them, mine weren't negative and most of the ones I read weren't negative either. I don't think you want to remember the positive ones, but there are a lot of them.

Even if the reviews are positive, I've spoken to many people about the Surface (techies and not) and very few spoke well of Windows 8/Surface.

I have both iPad and Surface and I've had the iPad for years. I've asked my girlfriend if she wants an iPad and she told me that she didn't because she didn't really find a use case for it.

When I brought home the Surface she said: "Wow, this I can use . Get me one!".

I don't really know why but she likes it and everyone that I've show Surface to and that have tried it out do infact like it, a lot.

Re: Aggressive negative advertising by Microsoft against Google.

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If you login to Outlook.com (which is extremely slow btw), you'll also find the following settings page available from the bottom right cog icon: https://data.choice.microsoft.com/mydata/UserInterests Under 'My Data' it stores Bing Searches and takes guesses as to your 'Interests'. How does it do that exactly? Operationally, how different is Outlook.com a.k.a Hotmail, compared to Google? Both are free, and nothing is…

Logging in to Gmail is slower than Outlook in my experience, it even got a loading bar. I got IE9 right now so I can't test it (I'm not at my own pc), but this is how it feels to me.

You may have a point. I use Chrome predominantly. It might well be that Google optimize GMail for Chrome and Microsoft optimize Hotmail/Outlook.com for IE.

Re: Aggressive negative advertising by Microsoft against Google.

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No, reading personal email to deliver advertisements is creepy. It's better than it used to be but we all remember seeing things like casket advertisements when an email mentioned dead code, etc etc. It's creepy, and I would gladly pay google monthly to prevent them from abusing my privacy. But Google doesn't want money from me, it wants to abuse my privacy. That's far more profitable. It's unfortunate but too many s…

Right here https://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=...

So, make a brand new email address and abandon my @gmail account?

If I was willing to do that: I'd just leave Gmail for a superior service!

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Right here https://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=...

So, make a brand new email address and abandon my @gmail account? If I was willing to do that: I'd just leave Gmail for a superior service!

Superior in what way? No one has better spam blocking.

Re: Aggressive negative advertising by Microsoft against Google.

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Even if the reviews are positive, I've spoken to many people about the Surface (techies and not) and very few spoke well of Windows 8/Surface.

I have both iPad and Surface and I've had the iPad for years. I've asked my girlfriend if she wants an iPad and she told me that she didn't because she didn't really find a use case for it. When I brought home the Surface she said: "Wow, this I can use . Get me one!". I don't really know why but she likes it and everyone that I've show Surface to and that have tried it out do infact like it, a lot.

That's some pretty anecdotal evidence. Just as anecdotally, I have heard to the contrary.

Re: Aggressive negative advertising by Microsoft against Google.

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Well the good ones that made it to the front page were down voted off with in hours so maybe you should use other sources. I don't have any idea how the surface is but unfortunately hacker news might not be the best place for balanced information.

How much time do I have in a day, that I need to go hunting down unbiased information on an expensive toy I have no reason to buy? How many tablets or laptops do you think I need?

Way to completely change the point of the discussion.
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