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Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by ehutch79 »

seivan wrote: post #11

Anyone who says "5 minutes implementation" to me, get's a nice and sound "GO FUCK YOURSELF" EDIT: Usually it's the business monkey, UX snake oil guys and product leeches that say "Hey, that will only take like 5 minutes, right?"

Why is this getting downvoted so much? Just the language I hope. because there is a point there.

Everytime I see a meteor post, I get the feeling the article is telling me I'd be a fool to use anything else.

Assuming that's so, can we start talking about things like PCI compliant meteor apps. And what the security landscape looks like since you can interact with the data store via your browser's javascript console.

Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by friendly_chap »

cuttooth wrote: post #15
seivan wrote: post #11

Anyone who says "5 minutes implementation" to me, get's a nice and sound "GO FUCK YOURSELF" EDIT: Usually it's the business monkey, UX snake oil guys and product leeches that say "Hey, that will only take like 5 minutes, right?"

It's basically the same thing as Rails people saying "you can make a blog in five minutes!", because you really can't. (This isn't a knock against Rails, it's just that five minutes barely gives you time to open the documentation and start to actually get an idea of how a library/framework is designed.)

5 minutes _once you know it_

Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by yarone »

sid6376 wrote: post #12

Meteor sounded like a really good concept and I wanted to give it a decent shot. However I could not find a getting started project. The ones I found were very trivial and did not go much into details. I couldnt really find a lot of documentation about how to create an app which used 40-50% of the features which will be used by the majority of the crowd. But I will give it another shot and probably write a polls app…

A handful of really great Meteor.js screencasts, here: http://www.eventedmind.com/

Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by nestlequ1k »

don_draper wrote: post #20

Why does HN not like MongoDB, but does like Meteor. Meteor uses MongoDB if you don't know.

MongoDB is pretty popular here. There's just a vocal group of old school RDBMS lovers who like to hate on everything that isn't PostgreSQL.

Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by 1qaz2wsx3edc »

javajosh wrote: post #16
sid6376 wrote: post #12

Meteor sounded like a really good concept and I wanted to give it a decent shot. However I could not find a getting started project. The ones I found were very trivial and did not go much into details. I couldnt really find a lot of documentation about how to create an app which used 40-50% of the features which will be used by the majority of the crowd. But I will give it another shot and probably write a polls app…

meteor create --list Personally, I think the `parties` example is a good one, so you can do: meteor create --example parties Enjoy.

The parties examples only uses a static map (lame), they make no use of google maps or leaflets. Try using an infoWindow. You can't, it's not easy. You're productive will be stone walled with the simplest of integration. (This is a limit of constant regions and how meteor handles controlling a piece of the dom). Working with maps or third party libraries is a common task.

So, given that common tasks become stone walled and meteor promises productive. I'm waiting for 1.0, meteor is all too young.

I do love some parts of the pattern. I'm surprised that it hasn't been done before; like years ago.

Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by kisielk »

$ curl https://install.meteor.com | sh

I really wish people would stop giving instructions like this. Despite all the focus on web security and sandboxing, we continue to instruct people to run arbitrary code on their user account.

People should at least give any shell script they download from the internet a cursory look to see if it's doing what it should be doing instead of blindly executing the response from an HTTP request.

Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by patrickleet »

ehutch79 wrote: post #21
seivan wrote: post #11

Anyone who says "5 minutes implementation" to me, get's a nice and sound "GO FUCK YOURSELF" EDIT: Usually it's the business monkey, UX snake oil guys and product leeches that say "Hey, that will only take like 5 minutes, right?"

Why is this getting downvoted so much? Just the language I hope. because there is a point there. Everytime I see a meteor post, I get the feeling the article is telling me I'd be a fool to use anything else. Assuming that's so, can we start talking about things like PCI compliant meteor apps. And what the security landscape looks like since you can interact with the data store via your browser's javascript console.

The data store on the client side isn't the whole data store, it's the things you've published and subscribed to, which can change easily based on authentication, your userId, or however else you program it.

Meteor has an "insecure" mode that is active by default where everything is published. Don't use that in production.

Re: Create a web app from scratch in under 5 minutes with Meteor and Mailgun

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Post by doomslice »

Just curious, how does Meteor deal with concurrency issues where multiple clients are making changes to the same objects? Does last update win? How does this get reflected back to the UI?

Brief example: A grocery list that both my wife and I are editing, deleting, adding, and re-arranging at the same time.

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