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Farewell, neighbors

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Re: Farewell, neighbors

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post #7

Startups, please don't do this. Users can become surprisingly dependent on your site, give a week warning before closing out if you can. It's not too much to ask and gives users time to prepare, move data, swap contact details, backup and such.

Users, please don't become highly dependent on "free" sites with no obvious or proven business model.

Did they not have ads? Because "free with ads" supports most of the internet, and I don't think anyone can tell which things they should rely on and which they can't.

I mean, once they were bought by NBC, they din't seem any less dependable than MSNBC or such.

Re: Farewell, neighbors

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post #7

Startups, please don't do this. Users can become surprisingly dependent on your site, give a week warning before closing out if you can. It's not too much to ask and gives users time to prepare, move data, swap contact details, backup and such.

this assumes the startup in question has some sort of control over the situation. I bet that isn't always the case. I'm sure ideally everyblock would have liked to wind things down a little less abruptly, but sometimes, reality sucks.

Re: Farewell, neighbors

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post #11
post #7

Startups, please don't do this. Users can become surprisingly dependent on your site, give a week warning before closing out if you can. It's not too much to ask and gives users time to prepare, move data, swap contact details, backup and such.

Users, please don't become highly dependent on "free" sites with no obvious or proven business model.

Getting tired of this response.

I'm dealing with this issue right now with Snip.it. They were clearly in talks with Yahoo! about being purchased (and potentially others as they were putting out surveys every few months about usage and purpose that I filled out each and every time), but didn't inform any of us that the site would literally be shut off late one day and we would be unable to retrieve (or even look at in read-only mode) all of the data we'd put on the site.

We were initially able to grab a PDF or HTML file of the links we'd posted, but none of the additional descriptions we'd place along with them. They told us to try Kippt and Diigo but the way they'd formatted the file wasn't friendly to either of these services, which would lump them all together instead of separate them by the categories we'd placed them in (although it would "tag" them with the category, but that doesn't help me navigate when my tags aren't listed out anywhere). When I complained about the descriptions issue on their Facebook page, they added them a few days later and another service (keeeb) tried to reach out and ask them how they could better serve the fallout (not sure if they responded, but keeeb looks like a neat service). I got in touch with Kippt to ask if they could figure out a way to get the imports to work correctly since they were being advertised, and they asked for my export file and said they'd work on it, but I haven't heard anything back.

I don't care if your service is free or not (and I even informed Snip.it I would have paid for the service, as some people replied on the linked post did as well), you owe it to the users that gave a shit about you and wanted to see you succeed to have some sort of grace period, and better, to escort them to similar services so they aren't left completely in the dust, having spent months and years of time contributing to and advertising for your company. At least in my situation, they tried to do the latter, even though these services weren't actually anything like their own and couldn't parse the data.

Whatever Yahoo! plans on doing with the Snip.it team, I won't be using it. I hope they're happy they've alienated a vibrant and growing audience.

Re: Farewell, neighbors

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post #26
post #3

This is really too bad, this was a great site and there doesn't really seem to be anything else like it out there. I'm surprised they couldn't come up with a way to make this profitable - and the closure is pretty sudden, wonder what the back story is there. My neighorhood in Chicago used this pretty extensively and it really helped keep people connected and aware of what was going on. Sad to see that go.

Where I live (northern NJ) everyone knows about and uses Patch. Even non-techy people. I'm really impressed by how quickly they've become the go-to source for local news.

Yeah, Patch hit on a pretty big gap in the news market. The bigger newspapers cut and cut on local reporters, to the point where a daily newspaper might have a half-dozen local stories covering their very large coverage area. Patch can start a micro-site, have someone write an article or two about that town each day, and be much more interesting to people.

Re: Farewell, neighbors

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post #21

I am super bummed about this. :-( I wrote some thoughts on my blog: http://www.holovaty.com/writing/rip-everyblock/ Adrian (EveryBlock founder)

I remember watching that come to life, Wilson's work on it and the maps etc. A fantastic piece of development.

Re: Farewell, neighbors

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post #24

I'm curious how many of the people reading this thread have ever actually used Everyblock (and if so how often)?

I think the last time I checked it was six months ago, when Adrian left and I was curious to how the site actually looked. To my surprise, the site seemed to have thrived in appearance ...the navigation had been cleaned up, more data sources had been added, and users were participating in discussions. I signed up as a user but didn't stay around...I think the site failed to become a "sticky" place. There was not enou…

EB may have suffered from a lack of discoverability of its best features.

The feature I found most useful was the ability to define an area on a map, then get email updates when other users posted news in that area. I think that should have been the primary focus of Everyblock instead of the raw stream of data.

Re: Farewell, neighbors

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post #9

What a shame. Six months ago when Adrian Holovaty left, he told The Verge that he saw EveryBlock living for a "long, long time" and that MSNBC.com were "taking the long view on it": http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/16/3245325/5-minutes-on-the-v... And there was little reason to doubt him...I didn't use EB very much but it was an incredibly well executed site, in terms of its mapping and data-aggregation...it obviously…

Has Adrian written on why he left possibly as soon as he was able (assuming that Everyblock was acquired in "summer 2009", and many founders are tied to two year agreements to stay, and he left in August two years later)?
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