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Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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untog wrote: post #16
kunai wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read the review? This isn't related AT ALL to the old OS7 Bold or any other Blackberry line, which were awful. BB10 can do much more than an iPhone and be just as productive while providing a rich media experience.

It's still relevant. Increasingly, mobile OSes are less about where they are now than where they will be. Apple have been outstanding in that regard- providing OS updates to really quite old phones. Vanilla Android has been just as great, but individual Android manufacturers less so. MS has been terrible. BB has a history of being terrible. So, Blackberry's past is relevant. No, they might not repeat it, but absent o…

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Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by rcb »

Does anyone know if BB has the ability to push OS updates direct to customer handsets? Years ago such updates required carrier "approval"/intervention, which meant updates occurred infrequently (usually after significant delay), if ever.

Edit: US carriers, specifically AT&T.

Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by sjwright »

scrabble wrote: post #18
purephase wrote: post #10

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That's just silly and so US-centric it's laughable (as is the parent). It's not BlackBerry that is causing the delay, the US carrier device testing/acceptance is the stumbling block. If it was up to BlackBerry they would be available now.

As someone who used to work for BlackBerry, this was always the stated direction for BB10. Whether or not that's changed in the last few months, I can't say, but while I was there the intention was always to release in the US last to work the kinks out.

Hello, this is the rest of the world. We don't want your buggy untested crap.

Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by dholowiski »

kunai wrote: post #14
manishsharan wrote: post #11

I am not falling for BB again ! In my last iteration of smartphone purchase, I bought a latest-at-the-time Iphone 3GS for my wife and the latest-at-the-time Blackberry Bold. Since then I have watched in envy as my wife could get so much done on her phone than I could on my BB. My BB never did much beyond email and BBM ( I love BBM ) In this iteration, I recently placed an order for Nexus 4 and a Iphone 5. maybe if th…

Did you even read the review? This isn't related AT ALL to the old OS7 Bold or any other Blackberry line, which were awful. BB10 can do much more than an iPhone and be just as productive while providing a rich media experience.

Brand new OS, brand new hardware, what could possibly go wrong? Last time they did this (Playbook - new hardware, new OS) it was a gigantic hit, right?

Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by Osiris »

I welcome any competition into the mobile OS market, especially if it brings a refreshing new take on design and user experience.

My devices all run Android and while it's usable, I'm not a huge fan of many aspects of the OS. While I don't plan on getting a BB10 device, I am interested to see if or how its innovations cause other OS vendors to adjust their own user experience.

Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by purephase »

dholowiski wrote: post #24
kunai wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read the review? This isn't related AT ALL to the old OS7 Bold or any other Blackberry line, which were awful. BB10 can do much more than an iPhone and be just as productive while providing a rich media experience.

Brand new OS, brand new hardware, what could possibly go wrong? Last time they did this (Playbook - new hardware, new OS) it was a gigantic hit, right?

The re-brand is telling. This is not the same organization that launched the PlayBook.

I also believe that the PlayBook is an extremely under-valued product. I, and quite a few people I know, use it all the time. For the price point it is a great device.

Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by serge2k »

purephase wrote: post #26
dholowiski wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brand new OS, brand new hardware, what could possibly go wrong? Last time they did this (Playbook - new hardware, new OS) it was a gigantic hit, right?

The re-brand is telling. This is not the same organization that launched the PlayBook. I also believe that the PlayBook is an extremely under-valued product. I, and quite a few people I know, use it all the time. For the price point it is a great device.

For the 200 dollar price point.

When it launched it was what, twice that? Also came missing basic features. That's what lead to the failure. I got mine as a gift, it's a nice device. Main complaint is no suffort from bigger third party companies (i.e. netflix, skype).

Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by 3pt14159 »

sjwright wrote: post #23
scrabble wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who used to work for BlackBerry, this was always the stated direction for BB10. Whether or not that's changed in the last few months, I can't say, but while I was there the intention was always to release in the US last to work the kinks out.

Hello, this is the rest of the world. We don't want your buggy untested crap.

I'm in Canada, I'd rather have buggy untested crap than to wait for years for a vendor to bring it to Canada.

Re: Review: BlackBerry 10 is better, much better, late than never

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Post by compilercreator »

purephase wrote: post #13
compilercreator wrote: post #5

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I got my Z10 yesterday and I can confirm that the phone (and all the gestures) are completely usable with just one hand. The phone size was selected pretty intelligently. I don't think the UI design would have worked with a bigger phone.

If you don't mind me asking, what platform were you on before? I'm considering ditching my iPhone for the Z10 as I'm so tired of Apple. I really miss the unified inbox in BlackBerry world and the hub sounds promising. App selection is not that important to me.

I was using galaxy s2x. A variant of s2 with a 4.5 inch screen. That was hard to use single handed. This is my first blackberry so no idea how it compares with previous blackberry handsets.
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