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Dangerous Ideas: Sorry Paul Graham, I Think it Does Matter Where You Went to College

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Re: Dangerous Ideas: Sorry Paul Graham, I Think it Does Matter Where You Went to College

#21
Let's get Don Dodge (Microsoft is dead hater), this person, and we'll all PG hate for flash-in-the-pan attention.

My favorite:

"Let us not then, Paul, put her (straight-A student) down. She too, just as much as any homegrown entrepreneur, has worked hard and made use of her talents."

Or she drinks with the TA, or her Dad plays golf with the dean, or she's book smart, none of whom I'd probably want to hack with.

Re: Dangerous Ideas: Sorry Paul Graham, I Think it Does Matter Where You Went to College

#22
WHAT A BUNCH OF BALONEY!!!

Let's call a spade a spade. College is another world. A vacation. Detached from reality. Please, please, please, don't confuse success in school with success in anything that actually matters.

"They got there because they're on the ball."

WTF?!?!?!?

Try paying a mortgage, raising children, staying healthy, caring for ailing parents, making it to work by 8:00 am, and completing 167 other required transactions each and every day, and still keep a smile on your face.

Versus reading books between beers, parties, and hookups.

Face it, what people in the isolated world of college call "work" is what people who pay their bills call "time off". After another 1000 lines of code, 3 more meetings with idiots, 27 more phone calls, hell in traffic, and a deep sigh of relief (it's Friday), I think I'll go to Barnes & Noble and read a little Kant to relax.

Paul was right on. Now STFU.

Re: Dangerous Ideas: Sorry Paul Graham, I Think it Does Matter Where You Went to College

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post #22

WHAT A BUNCH OF BALONEY!!! Let's call a spade a spade. College is another world. A vacation. Detached from reality. Please, please, please, don't confuse success in school with success in anything that actually matters. "They got there because they're on the ball." WTF?!?!?!? Try paying a mortgage, raising children, staying healthy, caring for ailing parents, making it to work by 8:00 am, and completing 167 other req…

Amen.

Re: Dangerous Ideas: Sorry Paul Graham, I Think it Does Matter Where You Went to College

#27
post #10

hhmmm, guy who makes his living selling books about how to do well at college blasts essay from guy who says 'college... meh'. nuff said.

No kidding. I didn't notice that. Now I get what this is about. SEO. Oddly enough that makes it less annoying.

Re: Dangerous Ideas: Sorry Paul Graham, I Think it Does Matter Where You Went to College

#29
post #7

"The student who got an 'A' on her Kant essay is, quite simply, someone who really understands Kant" This is the point where my bull shit meter hit the red area and then went on to roll on the floor and laugh :)

Ditto. Can any subject require more subservience to a teacher than the 'Kantian interpretive' type he uses here?

Once I completed an essay assignment for a college Shakespeare class, filling in everything I knew the teacher wanted me to say. At the end however, I wrote something like "However, I don't actually believe what I wrote above."

When I got the marked essay back, there were lots of positive comments in the margins, until the last paragraph. There the comment was, "Jim, I think we should discuss this."

I got an A in that class.

Re: Dangerous Ideas: Sorry Paul Graham, I Think it Does Matter Where You Went to College

#30
I think there was a study that showed that Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc. are really good at finding and admitting very talented, driven people.

However, that same study found that equally talented, driven people who chose to attend a less prestigious school did just as well in their careers as the people who went to the big name schools.

So there probably is a correlation between "I went to Harvard." and "I will be successful." But not necessarily causation.

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