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Encrypting data certainly increases the barrier to entry for spying.
No it doesn't, it means if somebody doesn't really want to spy on you they just will not waste their time....
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Not saying Skype is perfect (it isn't), but WebRTC by itself doesn't come close to being a Skype substitute. While stability for particular client-side bits (media, transport, etc) will now now fall on the browser vendor, you're still going to depend on another service for all the niceties (media and signaling relay, contacts, presence, history, etc), and they could screw it up just as badly as Skype, or worse. Skype…
You're correct that you'll depend on another service for all the niceties, but I for one am super excited about decoupling all of those services from the connection itself. Hopefully it'll lead to a lot more competition and innovation in the space.
Wouldn't it be nice if WebRTC pushed video-calling into becoming like e-mail, and you could take to anyone, regardless of what "video-calling app/service" they are using?
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#93Yes, please, please, please kill Skype. Kill it mercilessly. Using it has been the worst experience I've ever had with an application. I've been in a long distance relationship for a few years now and Skype has sadly been our main mode of video communication. The app crashes when I search chat history, can take upwards of 90+% of my CPU, literally forcing me to shut down every other application I have running. The fo…
I use Sococo's Teamspace, which I help write as my job. We're cognizant of cpu usage especially on laptops and pads. We're ok now, and our next release will use substantially less CPU. Our codecs are WebRTC-derived, and its pretty stingy with memory and cpu so that's cool.
Do you imagine Sococo is some giant corporation? Its a startup like so many here. I was the 3rd person in the company, the 1st Software Engineer, so I'm pretty proud of the progress we've made in the last couple of years. There are a lot of big players in our market, and we've done a good job of beating them technically even though we're small.
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Unfortunately, if this page is accurate, DataChannels don't really work yet: http://www.webrtc.org/chrome#TOC-Data-Channels- A shame, because I have a use in mind for them. :)
It works on some alpha release of both Firefox and Chrome. There are already some file transfer apps if you're curious, although I haven't tested myself: https://github.com/lindstroem/FileTransfer and https://github.com/peer5/sharefest . Also, the folks from easyrtc ( https://github.com/priologic/easyrtc ) have already started working on adding DataChannels to their library.
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You fail to get my point, why do you think that that the US has has little issue with allowing encryption to be used these days? How strong is your 'locked' box? It's only a bunch of 1s and 0s.
Unless the NSA/FBI/whatever is decades ahead in mathematical research from what is common in academia, or has computers that are many orders of magnitude faster than what we have today, well encrypted data is basically random data to anyone who lacks the keys. That's a pretty tough locked box.
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The one key element of a Skype Killer, which isn't present in WebRTC, is a prescribed infrastructure to support these communications. Skype is made up of users who actually are, usually, unaware that they are also routing calls for other users. Even more precarious (and absent from WebRTC) are the skype SuperNodes, which no one is going to redo for WebRTC. The things which we love about skype, most notably the direct…
It would seem to greatly lower the cost of building a Skype-killer, though, and that's a pretty big deal.
Think of it this way. Skype has 2 things that WebRTC doesn't: Signaling and a Directory. Without those two components, you just have a phone without a phone number :/.
Lower barrier, yes. Easy? No, there are still significant costs.
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#97Yes, please, please, please kill Skype. Kill it mercilessly. Using it has been the worst experience I've ever had with an application. I've been in a long distance relationship for a few years now and Skype has sadly been our main mode of video communication. The app crashes when I search chat history, can take upwards of 90+% of my CPU, literally forcing me to shut down every other application I have running. The fo…
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Yeah, but what does it matter then? I can stand outside the bank safe all day and stare at it but unless I know the code I'm still just looking at a locked box. Strong encryption is the same way, feel free to stare at my VPN stream all day, it won't help you.
You fail to get my point, why do you think that that the US has has little issue with allowing encryption to be used these days? How strong is your 'locked' box? It's only a bunch of 1s and 0s.
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This is possible with current technology: $(document).keypress(sendKeypressInfo)
Won't the Same Origin Policy limit the exposure via ajax?
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#100Looks neat. One thing I wonder about tech' like this, is that it is encrypted from you to the service, but there is no assurance of privacy. Someone who runs a service like this can easy drop in on your calls and ease-drop. Which is a legitimate concern if someone wanted to use this either in a corporate environment or for very private calling (e.g. husband and wife, doctor and patient, etc). No current video tech' r…
My understanding is that it's possible to not have a 'service' and instead form connections from one person directly to another. That decentralization would be a privacy boon.