Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak • Hacker News Board

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by britta » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:32 PM UTC

Watabou wrote: post #52

Awesome! Does anyone know if SMS GV/Phone GV extension is working or not? I tried the tethered jailbreak on the 3GS and it wasn't working then. Only the Phone GV was working but it was slow. I have an iPhone 5 now and hopefully the day ends early today so I can go home and jailbreak. Can't wait to get NCsettings and Google voice integration!

They aren't updated for iOS 6 yet, but I believe the developer is planning on updating them. You can email him for more information if you like - his email address is listed at the bottom of his website (http://gvexts.appspot.com/).

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by gfodor » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:33 PM UTC

thethimble wrote: post #87

so898 wrote: post #85

I am very afraid of this moment. I know after this jailbreak released, there will be more and more people use illegal applications, and I have to worry about the meals next month. For god sake, hoping they will not release something that could break the IAP.....

Your concern is silly. People pirating applications are likely not going to be willing to pay for those applications in the first place. There is no opportunity cost associated with piracy. If anything, in my opinion, app piracy just increases the visibility of your app and could potentially win new, legitimate users through word of mouth.

Citation needed.

Do you really think that software pirates with jailbroken iPhones that have their phones loaded up with the latest popular apps would not spring the 20 bucks or so in the app store to buy them if it were hard to pirate them? The "no opportunity cost associated with piracy" canard held water in the days where lots of commercial software was reasonably outside the reach of your average individual who wanted to play with it. But saying that little Johnny that's playing Angry Birds for free would not have bought the game for a dollar anyway is, to be frank, complete bullshit.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by Jarred » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:34 PM UTC

evoxed wrote: post #64

Am I the only one getting a stream of NetDB errors (with the occasional HTTP 500 or 502)? I guess I'll just have to wait until... whatever server it's trying to connect to is up and running. I haven't had a chance to install a single package yet. Edit: Popping over to r/jailbreak confirms it, I guess it'll be a while before things calm down. I just hope I can get f.lux before I have to go to work.

I'm also getting this error.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by mikeash » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:35 PM UTC

ansgri wrote: post #17

lutusp wrote: post #6

Warning: jailbreaking your phone is now illegal: http://investorplace.com/2013/01/jailbreaking-your-phone-wil...

I always wonder, how can you U.S. guys tolerate this stupid carrier lock-in with year-long contracts? When in other parts of the world they are planning or already have laws obliging carriers to provide call forwarding to your new number after you switch away.

People go for long contracts because the carriers will help pay for your phone if you do, and until recently, you got no discount for not signing up for a contract. So, I could pay $600 for my phone and $X/month for service with no contract, or I could pay $200 for my phone and $X/month for service with a two-year contract. If I'm not planning to switch carriers anyway, why not save $400?

This is starting to change, with T-Mobile leading the way toward giving people discounts if they bring their own phones or buy at full price. However, it's been the case for a long time that you could get service with no contract if you were willing to pay what it takes.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by xinsight » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:44 PM UTC

Gurrewe wrote: post #41

The last time I had a jailbroken phone was at the time of iOS 2, back then I didn't think it was worth it. What has changed in the last four years?

Reversing engineering apps is always educational. You can see a lot just with a class-dump of an unencrypted binary.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by NotAnEngineer » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:46 PM UTC

britta wrote: post #78

NotAnEngineer wrote: post #76

There's a Cydia app called BrowserChanger that lets you change the default browser (so clicking a link in Mail will open Chrome instead of Safari, for example). Is there a similar app that lets you change the default maps application?

MapsOpener makes Google Maps the default maps app - see http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/12/14/mapsopener/ for some information and a video.

Thanks!

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by egypturnash » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:46 PM UTC

stevedc3 wrote: post #80

The jailbreak community, who overall do very good things for users, are shooting themselves in the foot by not having the Cydia store work properly once you jailbreak --- the store is totally down, servers slammed. They had 6 months to prepare for this? why don't they correct it? people's first impressions (who have never jailbroken before) are that the process is terrible. I am referring to the Cydia store by @sauri…

They actually took some steps to try and mitigate this - the version of Cydia that this jailbreak installs is pre-loaded with the catalogs of the main repositories.

The repos are still, of course, slammed. Keep in mind that there's no money in hosting one AFIK. Who's gonna pay for ramping up more servers? Can you even easily do that with Cydia or would it require a lot of hacking on code that mostly works well enough?

I think anyone aware enough to be jailbreaking the first day the jailbreak is out is also aware enough to know that a royal fuckton of other people are also jailbreaking, and that if they can chill out for just a couple more days then they'll be able to load up all their favorite tweaks.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by saurik » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:48 PM UTC

nacs wrote: post #83

United857 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Closed source probably for practical reasons, to make it harder for Apple to quickly release a "fix".

By the time a patch is publicly released like this, I'm sure Apple will have it decompiled and know what the exploit is within weeks if not days since the actual exploit code won't be much code to analyze (as opposed to digging through all of iOS like the jailbreakers have to do find an exploitable location). Plus, Apple I'm sure has plenty of software/hardware debuggers they can attach to their own hardware that'd l…

(Days matter.) Another issue is that open-sourcing the exploit makes it easier to use for nefarious purposes in the mean time, and it isn't like knowing exactly how the exploit works actually helps end users protect themselves, due to Apple's platform policies. In essence, this is all a really dangerous ethical tightrope to be walked.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by nitrogen » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:48 PM UTC

gfodor wrote: post #92

thethimble wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your concern is silly. People pirating applications are likely not going to be willing to pay for those applications in the first place. There is no opportunity cost associated with piracy. If anything, in my opinion, app piracy just increases the visibility of your app and could potentially win new, legitimate users through word of mouth.

Citation needed. Do you really think that software pirates with jailbroken iPhones that have their phones loaded up with the latest popular apps would not spring the 20 bucks or so in the app store to buy them if it were hard to pirate them? The "no opportunity cost associated with piracy" canard held water in the days where lots of commercial software was reasonably outside the reach of your average individual who w…

Not the OP, but the only people I've heard of pirating apps are those for whom $20 is the difference between eating and starving (e.g. students whose phone is paid for by family, but their food and apps are not).

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by ThePinion » Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 7:54 PM UTC

ROFISH wrote: post #81

As a sidenote, I'm interested in hearing piracy numbers after this jailbreak. Is piracy still popular, or are people just jailbreaking solely for the mods?

didn't hackulous develop Appsync? That's the only simple method I knew of for transferring pirated apps from iTunes to the iDevice. Which is the main way the non technical users did it. Now that they've called it quits piracy will probably be drastically slowed down until there are new well known alternatives.

I could be totally wrong though, I don't own any iDevices, just basing my knowledge off helping people jailbreak their phones and pods over the past many years (except this last year of course..)