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Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by 0x0 »

ansgri wrote: post #17
lutusp wrote: post #6

Warning: jailbreaking your phone is now illegal: http://investorplace.com/2013/01/jailbreaking-your-phone-wil...

I always wonder, how can you U.S. guys tolerate this stupid carrier lock-in with year-long contracts? When in other parts of the world they are planning or already have laws obliging carriers to provide call forwarding to your new number after you switch away.

It's happening in Europe too, and I don't see the big problem.

It's what makes it economically possible for carriers to offer a subsidized up-front price on the phone. You're free to buy the much more expensive unlocked phone, even in the US, on apple.com, no?

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by wlesieutre »

kape wrote: post #21

I haven't Jailbroke my iPhone for a few years. I did out of curiosity, but updating OS was just too much pain. Been thinking what are the real benefits of doing that? Why? Is it customizing UI, adding more effects? Or is it just downloading apps outside app store? I think it brought value when we didn't have notification center etc, but still people doing it?

I do it for integration with Google Voice (with Phone GV and SMS GV) so that I can place calls from the built in dialer and send free texts through Messages.

The other thing I use frequently is NCSettings, which is much like SBSettings, but well integrated into notification center. It has a couple of pages you can swipe through, and gives immediate access to toggles for wifi, data, volume, brightness, VPN, location services, and more. http://modmyi.com/info/ncsettings.php

I also use Chrome on my phone, mostly because I use it on my desktop and laptop and like to have access to open tabs from my computers. It's doable without jailbreaking, but being able to set it as the default browser makes it a lot better.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by 0x0 »

MichaelGG wrote: post #30
JonnieCache wrote: post #24

Shame it doesn't happen in the browser this time around. That PDF exploit last year was slick.

If it was a browser exploit, wouldn't that put all users at a great risk, and also put more pressure on Apple to rapidly patch?

Yes. Good thing it's not.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by SifJar »

kape wrote: post #21

I haven't Jailbroke my iPhone for a few years. I did out of curiosity, but updating OS was just too much pain. Been thinking what are the real benefits of doing that? Why? Is it customizing UI, adding more effects? Or is it just downloading apps outside app store? I think it brought value when we didn't have notification center etc, but still people doing it?

I believe it is becoming less and less useful. To begin with, it was the only way to get any third party apps on iOS devices. Later it became the only way to have custom wallpapers, multitasking, better notifications etc. Obviously all these things have now been added officially, and in most cases the official implementation is more user friendly and more integrated.

There is still increased ability for theming with jailbreaking, and some unapproved apps such as emulators etc. as well as a few general tweaks such as allowing extra apps in the dock or allowing the home screen to be rotated on iPhone, but the benefits are slowly decreasing as iOS gets improved. But there is still benefit to it for some.

It's the same case with rooting Android devices; at a time it was almost essential to address the shortcomings of the OS. Now, it is barely even required for most users, due to the improvements of the OS. (stuff like taking screenshots, making backups of app data, tethering etc. used to require root on Android; now it's all baked right into the OS)

I'd say it's noteworthy though that these features may never have made it to their respective official OSes had they not been so popular with jailbreak/root users, so it's an important part of the OS improvement process in my opinion.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by britta »

kape wrote: post #21

I haven't Jailbroke my iPhone for a few years. I did out of curiosity, but updating OS was just too much pain. Been thinking what are the real benefits of doing that? Why? Is it customizing UI, adding more effects? Or is it just downloading apps outside app store? I think it brought value when we didn't have notification center etc, but still people doing it?

For most people it's about customizing iOS: adding extra features to the interface, disabling features you don't like, personalizing how it looks - generally finding ways to improve it so that it works better for you. Instead of just looking at interesting concept designs for new iOS features, you can install them. Here's a long thread from the jailbreaking subreddit where a bunch of people discussed the first packages they planned to install after jailbreaking: http://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/17gm4g/since_this... - I think it provides a decent cross-section of some benefits that people get excited about.

Also, if people are interested in technical details about what the jailbreak actually does, this old HN thread with comments from saurik is very informative: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4127801

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by StavrosK »

0x0 wrote: post #33
MichaelGG wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it was a browser exploit, wouldn't that put all users at a great risk, and also put more pressure on Apple to rapidly patch?

Yes. Good thing it's not.

I do agree, though, that visiting a page, pressing a "jailbreak" button and finding Cydia installed and running, was, to use the scientific term, slick.

Re: Evasi0n iOS 6.x jailbreak

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Post by hilko »

kape wrote: post #21

I haven't Jailbroke my iPhone for a few years. I did out of curiosity, but updating OS was just too much pain. Been thinking what are the real benefits of doing that? Why? Is it customizing UI, adding more effects? Or is it just downloading apps outside app store? I think it brought value when we didn't have notification center etc, but still people doing it?

I still use it for SBSettings, which allows me to turn bluetooth, wifi, etc. on by swiping the top of the screen.

And I use it for tethering or setting up a wifi hotspot from my phone (MyWi).

Plus a bunch of other things :).

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