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The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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They should have done this with Stargate Universe. Easily would have got 500k subscribers.

As much as I love stargate universe I don't think it would be the best place to start. The audience is a bit narrow and fragmented, they created a lot of disillusioned fans when they cancelled Atlantis and changed the format so much.

Would be great to see a new Star Trek series with SGU like production (visually the show looked great).

Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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I'll defend. 1. House of Cards was 13 "chapters" that have definite rhythm and flow. Every hour was a mini three act play and it would make sense considering at the end of the day, video is just scripts brought to life by an accomplished playwright, accomplished director, accomplished talent, and accomplished cast. 2. We don't live in that world anymore. We're a civilization on an escalating need for input stimulatio…

> And the impact of a well crafted moment in a show, I posit, is much more powerful sometimes than a page can deliver. Depends on the writer. I've been haunted by single lines in novels for years. > Surf Tumblr for a few hours and you'll understand how things are done these days. Kids don't just share quotes anymore, kids share GIF screen caps of their favorite moments in the movie or show they like. In David Brin's…

It's a subjective experience, sure. I don't doubt you found some amazing words and it stayed stuck in your head.

Though, which is more likely? This world of people remembering lines to Star Wars or this world remember the explicit teachings of Jesus Christ?

Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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I get the analogy and see the value in it, but I'll point out where the TV isn't like a book: 1. Books are obviously composed of text, and, when you read, you're also imbibing the rhythms of the language you're reading (see http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2007/12/24/071... for more on this). 2. Related to number one, many more of us need to write than need to shoot and edit videos. Reading skill is rela…

Also, the cost of entry for creating a high quality book is much lower than for creating a high quality movie/tv show. This allows a wider variety of viewpoints, forms, styles, and ideas to be expressed in book form than tv.

Kind of sounds like YouTube.

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Netflix is one of the pushers to standardize DRM in HTML: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jan/0172... So I don't see their growth as a good thing.

Would you rather they use Silverlight forever instead? Without some form of DRM on playback, there is no Netflix (or Hulu or any other legit web-based streaming for premium content).

Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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Netflix is one of the pushers to standardize DRM in HTML: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jan/0172... So I don't see their growth as a good thing.

Would you rather they use Silverlight forever instead? Without some form of DRM on playback, there is no Netflix (or Hulu or any other legit web-based streaming for premium content).

I'd rather them not use DRM at all. I don't use them precisely because of their DRM proliferation. But it's not the point - the point is that DRM is a dying trend altogether, and making it a Web standard is nonsensical. It's not different from proposing to make Flash or Silverlight a Web standard, when the whole Web is shifting to move to pure HTML. That's besides the mere fact that DRM is unethical and goes against the whole notion of the open Web.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you rather they use Silverlight forever instead? Without some form of DRM on playback, there is no Netflix (or Hulu or any other legit web-based streaming for premium content).

I'd rather them not use DRM at all. I don't use them precisely because of their DRM proliferation. But it's not the point - the point is that DRM is a dying trend altogether, and making it a Web standard is nonsensical. It's not different from proposing to make Flash or Silverlight a Web standard, when the whole Web is shifting to move to pure HTML. That's besides the mere fact that DRM is unethical and goes against…

DRM isn't dead, and its not going away any time soon. Although iTunes dropped it for music, they still use it for all video contents and of course apps. Spotify uses DRM for their content as well.

I'll be honest, I used to be a DRM hater, like you, but for subscription services DRM doesn't even get in the way... The experience is just that much better, and I don't mind at all... I don't even think about it.

So, it seems our options are limited here. There isn't going to be online content without DRM, especially in emerging and very competitive markets. It's a necessary evil, I fear.

Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you rather they use Silverlight forever instead? Without some form of DRM on playback, there is no Netflix (or Hulu or any other legit web-based streaming for premium content).

I'd rather them not use DRM at all. I don't use them precisely because of their DRM proliferation. But it's not the point - the point is that DRM is a dying trend altogether, and making it a Web standard is nonsensical. It's not different from proposing to make Flash or Silverlight a Web standard, when the whole Web is shifting to move to pure HTML. That's besides the mere fact that DRM is unethical and goes against…

It's dying in some contexts, and perfectly alive in others. Netflix is stuck dealing with big, slow lumbering companies who'll be saying "We'll license, if you have DRM". Protecting content isn't particularly unethical, it's just annoying.

Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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Netflix accomplished two things: 1. They muscled into the "prestige television" club for $100MM. It may be overpriced, or it may be underpriced, either way it's very good for consumers. 2. They validated television is the new book. You gorge on 13 hours of good television the same way you gorge on 13 chapters of a good book. This is very good for show creators. A triple win aligning interests while getting to say f-y…

On the 2nd, wasn't that validated by the 1960s at the latest? That was a common perception at the time, anyway.

Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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I would have preferred they spent a few hundred million per year on lobbying and amicus briefs to urge Congress and the Courts to adopt compulsory licensing. Then Netflix would be able to stream HBO shows without HBO's permission for a reasonable fixed fee. So could Amazon, and Hulu, and Google Play.

All of them could compete on service, rather than in backroom negotiations.

Instead, consumers should look forward to a war of content exclusivity deals, which should be a boon to content owners, and ultimately lead to increasing prices or decreasing convenience for consumers.

Re: The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show

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Netflix accomplished two things: 1. They muscled into the "prestige television" club for $100MM. It may be overpriced, or it may be underpriced, either way it's very good for consumers. 2. They validated television is the new book. You gorge on 13 hours of good television the same way you gorge on 13 chapters of a good book. This is very good for show creators. A triple win aligning interests while getting to say f-y…

On the 2nd, wasn't that validated by the 1960s at the latest? That was a common perception at the time, anyway.

This is a different behavior entirely. In the "couch potato" case people are just spending all day watching whatever is on, which might become a fundamental feature of their life. In the "netflix enthusiast" case people are spending chunks of free time consuming entire TV series, and often it's a thing that they'll do occasionally instead of continuously. This has very different consequences in the impact such behaviors have on someone's life.
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