What's with the svbtle ripoff?
What's with the only comments where I hear someone complain about a website looking like another website only ever asking about svbtle? What's so special about that site? Or in sites looking similar in the first place?
AT&T Will Force Your Data Plan For Your Unlocked Out-of-Contract "Smart" Phone
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#62This is the same company that claims that how they measure your usage to determine DSL data caps is Proprietary. I think the time to put them under full regulation has come again.
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#63Id suggest 86-ing them and go to Straighttalk. They're an AT&T MVNO and for $55 you get unlimited service and data.
Just to be clear. I also use StraightTalk, but here in Colorado, they are an MVNO for Verizon. Carlos Slim's organization has been able to cut MVNO deals with all 3 large US carriers I believe, and it's easy to understand the leverage they have (i.e. want your customers to be able to roam in Mexico?). I've thought about getting a smartphone and fooling the network to believe I have a feature phone, but I have abstained and simply use an iPod Touch (w/ SIP client) + a feature phone. It simply seems like too much effort for me right now.
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#64AT&T are scum and this sort of stuff is standard practice with them. You shouldn't be giving them your money if you can avoid it. If you've got a GSM phone with the right radio bands, I suggest taking a look at the $30 plans here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans For CDMA I believe Sprint and Verizon offer prepaid plans without contracts at around $50 for talk/data. The key is that IMO, a prepaid p…
AT&T are scum and this sort of stuff is standard practice with them. "Them" is almost all wireless companies, what Verizon does, AT&T follows soon and vice-versa so consumers cannot penalize them. Startup costs are in the tens of billions and you have to fight incumbents so they essentially have a monopoly (or duopoly, or...)
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#65A little known aspect of the tough as nails deal that apple cut with at&t for a lengthy US exclusive deal was that that apple got a not insubstantial piece of every iphone subscriber's service fee from at&t. Not far below $10/mo/subscriber when the iphone first rolled out as I understand it. This is why AT&T has had a variety of fee recouping schemes on the iphone over the years. This is where all the verizon iphone rumors came from every year after the first year or two - the deal got renegotiated yearly after the first two and both parties were playing big time hardball, though I am under the impression the subsidy amount dropped dramatically by the end. I think they still have some obligations to pay on some subscribers that predate the loss of exclusivity.
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#66Straight Talk is a great alternative. They use AT&T towers and only charge $45/month for unlimited call/text/data. Works on my iPhone.
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#67What's with the svbtle ripoff?
Found it here - https://github.com/lipka/svbtle-for-posterous
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#68Joel, you said "They can opt me into a contract that I didn't agree to", but are you sure that you didn't implicitly/legally agree to something that says they can do that? Maybe their Terms of Service?
According to the TOS, they're supposed to notify you and give you a way to cancel in 30 days. I was notified but never given the chance to cancel.
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#69AT&T are scum and this sort of stuff is standard practice with them. You shouldn't be giving them your money if you can avoid it. If you've got a GSM phone with the right radio bands, I suggest taking a look at the $30 plans here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans For CDMA I believe Sprint and Verizon offer prepaid plans without contracts at around $50 for talk/data. The key is that IMO, a prepaid p…
Telcos like AT&T are scum and they have a thousand shady ways to get money out of customers. But I don't think this is one of them.
There is no way to use a smartphone without using data. Smartphone OSs use data in the background for so many things, for even voicemail. So, in this case, I think they are justified in adding a data plan. It is near impossible to use iOS or android without data, even when using them without any apps.
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#70What's with the svbtle ripoff?
What's with the only comments where I hear someone complain about a website looking like another website only ever asking about svbtle? What's so special about that site? Or in sites looking similar in the first place?
I wasn't aware it was a proprietary design. I found the posterous theme on GitHub - https://github.com/lipka/svbtle-for-posterous