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A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

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Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#53
I'm reminded of the Conan spoof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2Au80BmHc

Its interesting to watch the conversation here. Whether or not Apple creates a new 'size' phone or ipad or ipod for that matter its really based on their idea that there is some segment of the market out there that hinges on a particular size. The only limit here is the cost to bring out a new SKU versus the expected revenue it will bring in over its lifetime. If that number crosses the threshold them bam! you get a new SKU.

A little as a year ago people were saying "There is no 'tablet' market, there is an 'ipad' market." Those people have, for the most part, stopped saying that but as a new market there is very little history to tell you what is and what is not important for consumers. That information is developed by releasing products and evaluating the reactions.

Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#54
Argh

I want a smaller phone, to be less redundant with a tablet. Since I got a tablet I use my phone for audio, maps, calls, SMS, camera--all things I could do with an iPod nano-sized 2.5" display. A smaller phone would be clippable, lighter in my pocket.

But I think Marco might be right. I could deal with a bigger iPhone if it were cheaper and contract-free, I guess. But it's sort of disappointing to me how little interest there is in smaller screen sizes. Apple would be unlikely to issue a phone not compatible with any third-party apps, however.(3.5 inch screen with no bezel would be nice, too, and compatible with apps.)

Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#55
I would understand phones tending to get bigger if the iPad had been a flop and tablets had not been able to prove they are relevant for consumers. With tablets being superior on all aspects except for making calls and taking pictures, what I want is a minimalistic phone. Big enough that I can text, take pictures and make calls. And that I can plug to a tablet anytime to provide it with 3G connectivity.

And when I say "plug to a tablet" I mean that in the most meta sense you can imagine, what I want is somehow to be able to use my tablet using the same data plan as my phone, and that all my data can sync seamlessly from my phone to the tablet.

Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#56
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who said it was perfect? I think most agree that about 4 inches is the one-size-fits-all. That means it's best on average, not best for everyone. It's completely OK to introduce new form factors if there's clear demand.

> This is an example of one of those design decisions that you don’t usually notice until you see someone doing it wrong. It’s one of the things that makes Apple products Apple products. http://dcurt.is/3-point-5-inches

which of course is made even more fun since the thumb coverage area isn't even the same in the two diagrams.

Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#57
post #29
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who said it was perfect? I think most agree that about 4 inches is the one-size-fits-all. That means it's best on average, not best for everyone. It's completely OK to introduce new form factors if there's clear demand.

> Who said it was perfect? Gruber, for one: "Apple seems very confident about the precise size and dimensions of the iPhone display: 3.5 inches, with a 3:2 aspect ratio. Not 3 inches. Not 4 inches. [...] The iPhone 4 feels like a major step toward an idealized iPhone form factor. What defines the iPhone, physically, is the 3.5-inch diagonal screen." [1] "On These Rumors of a 4.6-Inch iPhone Display [...] Sure, develo…

Exactly and thanks. If I had the time and inclination I'd take a dive through HN's comments the last few years to find similar.

Truth be told, I welcome this change, Apple blew it with the iPhone 5, this is the bigger phone people want...but the user and pundit community absolutely drives me up a wall.

Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#58

Makes sense and should come as no surprise. Lots of people enjoy the large screen, Apple may release a phone in that size arena to compete and join in on the action. Samsung has proven that people like that screen size (S3). I live in Bolivia and the vast majority of people I've asked, "Why do you prefer the Samsung S3 over the iPhone?" answer "Because of the screen size". People like to get their money's worth.

How are larger, but lower-density screens getting your money's worth?

Oh well. This is why Apple keeps the iPad 2 on the market. Side-by-side, cheap sells and larger screens sell. Higher dpi and better calibrated displays don't sell.

Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#59
post #39

I'm not spending a dime on Apple products anymore. After the shitty lawsuit war they started, I'm not paying to support that behavior. Fuck Apple.

Just wait until this stupidity [1] starts getting turned into lawsuits. Half the trendy clothing, soap and perfume stores on the planet look like this.

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85036990&caseType=SERI...

Re: A crazier prediction: iPhone Plus is real, and huge

#60
post #58

Makes sense and should come as no surprise. Lots of people enjoy the large screen, Apple may release a phone in that size arena to compete and join in on the action. Samsung has proven that people like that screen size (S3). I live in Bolivia and the vast majority of people I've asked, "Why do you prefer the Samsung S3 over the iPhone?" answer "Because of the screen size". People like to get their money's worth.

How are larger, but lower-density screens getting your money's worth? Oh well. This is why Apple keeps the iPad 2 on the market. Side-by-side, cheap sells and larger screens sell. Higher dpi and better calibrated displays don't sell.

The same reason most people would consider a 36" flat screen TV a better deal at the same price as a 28" model.
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