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That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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I initially thought this was going to be about long-term health risks of showering every day. I've heard that long hot showers are bad for the skin and/or hair, is that true? Or might they be bad for the body in other ways?

(But good piece nonetheless, Jared Diamond is brilliant.)

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Especially since the TSA actually accomplishes almost nothing in preventing deaths. All a terrorist about to be discovered at the airport security gate would have to do to complete his deadly mission would be to detonate his bomb right then and there. It would cause people to fear airports and security gates and mess up the whole system. Terrorism is all about sowing fear that the government can't protect you. The TS…

Worse than that, the TSA nonsense encourages a non-trivial population to drive when they would have flown. Driving being far less safe, it's probable that Security Theatre has a body count.

The body count has been tallied quite a number of times over the last several years. Here's a search I just ran that gives a couple: https://www.google.com/search?q=tsa+drive+rather+than+fly+de...

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I some similar problems along with significant pain, also caused by falls (and a fairly serious injury that compounded things). I had pain for years, until I stumbled onto a combination of things that completely resolve the issues as long as I stick to them. I'm telling you in case they help. If nothing else it shouldn't hurt anything. In order of importance: 1. Develop & maintain significant muscle mass, specificall…

what a load of balls... the average man should be light and active enough to do a few chin ups with ease and run for a while i have deadlifted over 350. it did nothing for my chronic neck pain and in fact only made it worse by over developing my traps. neckbeard lifting gurus are so full of shit

Aside from the troll content here, you do have to be careful if you have e.g. spinal issues. Nerve damage can make even light exercise excruciating. I had to build back up carefully, never hyperextending, always keeping good posture, using light or (usually) no weight, focusing on weakened muscle groups, and never going to exhaustion, all of which is rather boring but was completely necessary. I do find that regular exercise helps with my neck and back pain, but it is certainly not a cure-all, and I worked out regularly before the pain started and definitely cannot do that type of workout any more. I've put back on about 15 pounds of muscle mass, but it's taken over a year of diligent work. On the plus side, my muscle tone is much better than it ever was from previous workout routines.

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Do not dismiss other techniques so easily. The human body is a very complex mechanism and we still don't know exactly how it works. Modern medicine has been based only on the knowledge that we have: which is thus quite limited. I'm not saying that they will work. But acupuncture and yoga are not the same as pixie dust, dung pills or what have you. To give an example of what I mean: the waters of the Ganges were said…

>But acupuncture and yoga are not the same as pixie dust, dung pills or what have you. Okay, so why don't they show any efficacy above pixie dust in double-blinded studies?

Unfortunately, double blind studies of acupuncture are impossible (the person doing it must know if they're putting needles in), and single blind studies are almost impossible (the patient can feel the needles, and tell how far in they are). The only thing than can be tested is the traditional Chinese medicine chi flow idea, and even assuming there's no chi flow along meridians, that doesn't mean the special locations it tries to explain aren't valid for some other reason. But it can't be tested.

It's all deeply frustrating. I tried acupuncture a few years ago (at a doctor's recommendation) and did a lot of reading. It didn't work for me, unsurprisingly - about the only thing it's been shown to have any effect for is some types of lower back pain, and my pain was (is) mostly in my hands.

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In general I shower when my wife tells me I need to. I'm not here to judge you or your lifestyle, but if I were to rely on my significant other to tell me when I needed to shower, I would feel as though I was taking advantage of their good will. I want to take care of myself and be attractive for them, not use them as a smell-o-metre.

use your own heuristic but showering every day, when all you did was sit in front of the computer and walk your dog in 40 degree weather, is wasteful, pointless, and weird.

Huh. Funny. Your comment seems wasteful, pointless, and weird, but here we are.

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This is a bit of an aside, but I have to say this: even as a young person, take falls very seriously . I was 22 or so when I slipped in the shower. I was falling to the side and was going to hit my head, so I decided to twist so that I'd fall flat on my back, figuring I'd be fine. Well, I was, until a few hours later, when I started having chest pain and my left arm went numb and started getting shooting pains. Think…

Sounds like a herniated disc in your neck. Given the time frame it seems stable -- but the only way to fix it is probably years of difficult physiotherapy or surgery (and then physiotherapy).

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This is a bit of an aside, but I have to say this: even as a young person, take falls very seriously . I was 22 or so when I slipped in the shower. I was falling to the side and was going to hit my head, so I decided to twist so that I'd fall flat on my back, figuring I'd be fine. Well, I was, until a few hours later, when I started having chest pain and my left arm went numb and started getting shooting pains. Think…

Sounds like a herniated disc in your neck. Given the time frame it seems stable -- but the only way to fix it is probably years of difficult physiotherapy or surgery (and then physiotherapy).

My theory when I started seeing a spinal surgeon was a herniated disc at the C8 root. But an MRI ( http://demoseen.com/mri/ if you'd like to see the imagery) didn't show anything of the sort. At this point, it's looking likely to be either Thoracic Outlet Syndrome or another injury to the nerves there.

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>But acupuncture and yoga are not the same as pixie dust, dung pills or what have you. Okay, so why don't they show any efficacy above pixie dust in double-blinded studies?

Unfortunately, double blind studies of acupuncture are impossible (the person doing it must know if they're putting needles in), and single blind studies are almost impossible (the patient can feel the needles, and tell how far in they are). The only thing than can be tested is the traditional Chinese medicine chi flow idea, and even assuming there's no chi flow along meridians, that doesn't mean the special location…

> Unfortunately, double blind studies of acupuncture are impossible

It doesn't seem completely impossible. You could have someone put the same needles in randomly, instead of in whatever location acupuncture claims they should be put in.

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>But acupuncture and yoga are not the same as pixie dust, dung pills or what have you. Okay, so why don't they show any efficacy above pixie dust in double-blinded studies?

Unfortunately, double blind studies of acupuncture are impossible (the person doing it must know if they're putting needles in), and single blind studies are almost impossible (the patient can feel the needles, and tell how far in they are). The only thing than can be tested is the traditional Chinese medicine chi flow idea, and even assuming there's no chi flow along meridians, that doesn't mean the special location…

The theory of acupuncture places rules and requirements on how the needles are placed. You can of course stick needles in wherever you want but that is not acupuncture in the same way that cracking my own neck is not chiropracy and cutting myself with a knife is not surgery. Any study that just says random needle sticking might work (in addition to being flawed due to the issues you've laid out) is not really any more compelling than a study that concludes "cracking your neck feels good".

Therefore single-blind studies of acupuncture are trivial; just find people who don't know where the needles are supposed to go. A double-blind study could be possible, if you trained two sets of people to perform the procedure (one incorrectly).

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