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Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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Re: Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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Near the bottom of this article is an interesting post mortem of RethinkDB's transparent salary policy. When it was posted years ago [1] folks here took pretty kindly to it, though some were skeptical [2].

I'm kinda disappointed (who doesn't like to know?) but also not very surprised that it didn't work out. Negotiation doesn't work super well if the other players have complete information about your strategy.

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20100722162634/http://rethinkdb.c...

[2a] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1210336

[2b] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1190533

Re: Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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When I was working in New York City, I always found employee secrecy over the salaries pretty interesting. It seemed like a taboo to tell someone your salary or ask them what they're paid.

I understand why employers would want to disincentive salary disclosures but employees? Your peers salary is clear indication of your valuation to the company and there should be every incentive to share. Back home in India, pretty much everyone knows each others salaries for all sizes of companies.

Re: Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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post #4

When I was working in New York City, I always found employee secrecy over the salaries pretty interesting. It seemed like a taboo to tell someone your salary or ask them what they're paid. I understand why employers would want to disincentive salary disclosures but employees? Your peers salary is clear indication of your valuation to the company and there should be every incentive to share. Back home in India, pretty…

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Re: Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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I've always felt uncomfortable about how employees are not supposed to talk to each other about their salaries.

To me, it reeks of manipulation feels just like saying to a child "Here's some candy, but you have to promise not to tell anyone I gave it to you, OK"

ugh.

Re: Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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I can see how this is interesting, but it seems like it would be too easy for no one to ever be happy. Employees tend to either over or under value themselves pretty strongly, and while trying to level the playing field seems like a good idea, it's just inviting confrontation if you have a mix of both (like a lot of workplaces). Combine that with the proclivity for workplace lawsuits at even a hint of discrimination (in the US) and I don't see how this could ever gain wide adoption.

I also think the idea of scheduled raises breeds a sense of complacency.

Re: Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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post #4

When I was working in New York City, I always found employee secrecy over the salaries pretty interesting. It seemed like a taboo to tell someone your salary or ask them what they're paid. I understand why employers would want to disincentive salary disclosures but employees? Your peers salary is clear indication of your valuation to the company and there should be every incentive to share. Back home in India, pretty…

What I also found weird in NYC is that people can be really cagey about their rent, because our have a rent ceiling that most landlords won't let you go past, and that's a multiple of your salary. So if someone's paying X amount of rent, you know that their salary is at least Y. It's really strange.

Re: Transparency at the Office: Psst...This Is What Your Co-Worker Is Paid

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I've always felt uncomfortable about how employees are not supposed to talk to each other about their salaries. To me, it reeks of manipulation feels just like saying to a child "Here's some candy, but you have to promise not to tell anyone I gave it to you, OK" ugh.

There's nothing stopping you from talking to other employees about salaries. It's a myth that is propagated by companies in order to keep you in the dark about what they are paying other people, to deprive you of information, and to keep you at a disadvantage in any negotiation.
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