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Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

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Post by papsosouid »

figurify wrote: post #7

Having developed for BB before, I cannot tell how bad their toolchain and libraries and HW/SW protocol layers are. I highly doubt that they can fix all these in one big fat major release. Considering the fact that RIM is bleeding, this may be their one and only chance though. Good luck RIM, it is always good to have more options in the market...

>I highly doubt that they can fix all these in one big fat major release.

Why? They threw everything away and started from scratch, so the only way to not fix them is if they deliberately recreate the same problems. They didn't btw, bb10 development is way easier than ios and android (never touched windows phone so I can't comment there).

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

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Post by adrinavarro »

rayiner wrote: post #22
milanello1 wrote: post #12

why are so many people excited over this? all I got was...blackberry has apps...what's my incentive to switch from android then?

My reasons for being excited: 1) Physical keyboard in the Q10 2) No Android, no Google 3) Hardware and software made by the same company 4) No Samsung/HTC/etc crapware customizations 5) Hopefully more top-down design and app store curation ala iOS 6) My Bold 9900 feels expensive; most Android phones I've played with feel cheap and plasticky 7) LTE, which the otherwise interesting Nexus 4 doesn't have 8) The BB10 UI l…

My reason to be unexcited is that it is now just "another phone". The BIS (blackberry internet service) might've sucked in some ways but it meant tight security, and more importantly, roaming.

If they want to keep the big paying customers there, they're going to have to start talking about their previous "good points" and we shall see if they're still standing. Or it's more of a "Alicia Keys" public thing.

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

#53

Post by marekmroz »

faramarz wrote: post #23

70k Apps on the New Platform. I am very impressed by this. They mentioned all the popular apps that have come onboard.. but I didn't see a mention of Instagram. That resonates with the young crowd. Instagram should have been in the Keynote pitch! Never the less, this could have gone horribly wrong, but I think BB did good today. edit: I hope the iPhone does something similar to Peak. Which I thought was a lot more in…

Native camera app on BB10 has instagram-like filters, maybe that's why it is not included.

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

#54

Post by papsosouid »

run4yourlives wrote: post #42
rayiner wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reasons for being excited: 1) Physical keyboard in the Q10 2) No Android, no Google 3) Hardware and software made by the same company 4) No Samsung/HTC/etc crapware customizations 5) Hopefully more top-down design and app store curation ala iOS 6) My Bold 9900 feels expensive; most Android phones I've played with feel cheap and plasticky 7) LTE, which the otherwise interesting Nexus 4 doesn't have 8) The BB10 UI l…

So aside from the keyboard, it's basically the same as my iPhone4.

Sure, in the same way that all smartphones are "basically the same".

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

#55

Post by rayiner »

adrinavarro wrote: post #52
rayiner wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reasons for being excited: 1) Physical keyboard in the Q10 2) No Android, no Google 3) Hardware and software made by the same company 4) No Samsung/HTC/etc crapware customizations 5) Hopefully more top-down design and app store curation ala iOS 6) My Bold 9900 feels expensive; most Android phones I've played with feel cheap and plasticky 7) LTE, which the otherwise interesting Nexus 4 doesn't have 8) The BB10 UI l…

My reason to be unexcited is that it is now just "another phone". The BIS (blackberry internet service) might've sucked in some ways but it meant tight security, and more importantly, roaming. If they want to keep the big paying customers there, they're going to have to start talking about their previous "good points" and we shall see if they're still standing. Or it's more of a "Alicia Keys" public thing.

Wait, are they getting rid of BIS with BB10?

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

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Post by adrinavarro »

rayiner wrote: post #55
adrinavarro wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reason to be unexcited is that it is now just "another phone". The BIS (blackberry internet service) might've sucked in some ways but it meant tight security, and more importantly, roaming. If they want to keep the big paying customers there, they're going to have to start talking about their previous "good points" and we shall see if they're still standing. Or it's more of a "Alicia Keys" public thing.

Wait, are they getting rid of BIS with BB10?

In the question round-up, someone asked how the switch to a "direct connection" will fare (in comparison with the current system under BB7, I understand).

No clear answer there. It's not like it's important for them, right?

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

#57

Post by run4yourlives »

papsosouid wrote: post #54
run4yourlives wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So aside from the keyboard, it's basically the same as my iPhone4.

Sure, in the same way that all smartphones are "basically the same".

All smartphones aren't new to the market and looking to regain a lost share though.

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

#58

Post by ajasmin »

jpxxx wrote: post #11

"We've created a new position at BlackBerry, a Global Creative Director." "We needed someone who is creative, and into technology." "Alicia Keys is BlackBerry's new Creative Director." NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

After watching the presentation, I understand that Alicia's job is to help people in the entertainment industry take advantage of the BlackBerry platform. I guess she can play that role.

She probably should find herself a more descriptive job title though.

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

#59

Post by papsosouid »

run4yourlives wrote: post #57
papsosouid wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, in the same way that all smartphones are "basically the same".

All smartphones aren't new to the market and looking to regain a lost share though.

I'm afraid I don't understand the point you are making.

Re: BlackBerry 10 Live Webcast

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Post by run4yourlives »

papsosouid wrote: post #59
run4yourlives wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All smartphones aren't new to the market and looking to regain a lost share though.

I'm afraid I don't understand the point you are making.

In order to be successful, RIM/Blackberry needs to do more than just put out a phone that is equal to the competition (iPhone/Android). They've already had 2-3 years of people leaving them in droves, and those people are now, for the most part, happy with their new choices.

Saying: "Look, BB10 can do everything your phone can do" is going to be met with a "So what?" by most of those users. There needs to be something in a new phone to cause people to change.

So like I said, outside of a keyboard, which isn't even available yet, I don't see anything in the new phone that does this.

At the very best, all Blackberry can hope for is that this phone stems the tide of current BB users opting for other smartphones. That's not going to save the company though.

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