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If you're feeling this way please just TELL somebody. If you're ready to kill yourself, what more do you have to lose by just letting someone know?
To someone who's considering suicide, death can actually be more appealing than telling anyone about how they've lost another job, failed another course, etc. etc.
If you're feeling this way please just TELL somebody. If you're ready to kill yourself, what more do you have to lose by just letting someone know?
I have seen close friends and relatives work their way through depression (varying levels), so unfortunate as it is, here is the answer (I KNOW the following sounds crazy - even to me - but this is what is considered rational and obvious by suicidal folks) Telling someone makes it likely that they will try to stop you. If you have decided to take your life, the worst thing you want (in some cases) is for someone try…
This is not true, though I agree that this is how the afflicted might see it.
I've had depression and suicidal thoughts. Now I don't. A combination of ambition, temporary setbacks, and treatable medical problems / drug interactions were at fault.
Now I don't feel suicidal. I sometimes feel sad, but never depressed. If anything -- the few bouts of depression I had were something like a crucible. I've looked into the abyss, broken down, and now I know that I can put myself back together again. It's actually kind of liberating and focusing.
There is hope!
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I have seen close friends and relatives work their way through depression (varying levels), so unfortunate as it is, here is the answer (I KNOW the following sounds crazy - even to me - but this is what is considered rational and obvious by suicidal folks) Telling someone makes it likely that they will try to stop you. If you have decided to take your life, the worst thing you want (in some cases) is for someone try…
I don't think he necessarily means that the person should tell someone his/her suicidal thoughts. I think he means that the person should tell someone about his/her troubles and worries so that others may provide help and support for that the depressed person. I think no one really really wants to die. People choose to end their lives because they feel there is no other way to ease their pain, emotional or physical.…
We naturally give people the benefit of the doubt. Bystander effect, etc.
If you're feeling this way please just TELL somebody. If you're ready to kill yourself, what more do you have to lose by just letting someone know?
Among other things, the freedom to kill yourself.
Having been suicidal, I can tell you that to my current mind-state, my suicidal mind-state's rationale was laughably bad. The dangerous thing is that it didn't feel that way at the time. It. Felt. Crystal. Clear.
I'm a smart guy. I don't want anyone telling me that my thinking is flawed. I certainly don't like the idea of someone else coercing me into treatment, given the history of abuse.
That said, suicide would have been a terrible mistake. Perversely, it would have greatly harmed some of those I was trying to protect.
Anyone out there reading this who might want to do the same thing: Don't. It's not hopeless.
We shouldn't treat people like shit and refuse to help them with their suffering, then complain bitterly when they commit suicide. When this happens, it is our failure as a society.
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Why suicide is bad thing?
Because it's irreversible, and people contemplating suicide are often being impulsive or illogical, yet feel as though they are being completely logical. Maybe they're chronically sleep-deprived, or having a vitamin deficiency or drug-interaction. The problem is that they will think they are making a decision of their own free will. This is why things that affect your very thinking are so insidious. Think of sleep de…
Yes, everyone who died is insane.
Seeing as not so many people came back from death, life is not so much of "best next thing after sliced bread". It is just an experience, don't hang on it too much. ;)
Anyone out there reading this who might want to do the same thing: Don't. It's not hopeless.
What I hear is that you would rather people just suffered in silence rather than drawing attention and inconveniencing you with their suicides. We shouldn't treat people like shit and refuse to help them with their suffering, then complain bitterly when they commit suicide. When this happens, it is our failure as a society.
It's their decision. There are myriad reasons someone may want to end his/her life. It's not the role of someone not in the headspace of the suicider to comment on what they're going through.
It's astounding that so many people want to restrict the freedom of others to be released from suffering.
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I have seen close friends and relatives work their way through depression (varying levels), so unfortunate as it is, here is the answer (I KNOW the following sounds crazy - even to me - but this is what is considered rational and obvious by suicidal folks) Telling someone makes it likely that they will try to stop you. If you have decided to take your life, the worst thing you want (in some cases) is for someone try…
"Telling someone makes it likely that they will try to stop you." I think this is a likely reason, along with feeling of low self worth (feeling irredeemably "unfixable" as lusr described it [1]), or not having any fiends or family that they can tell. The best thing is to talk to someone. Ideally a mental health professional, or failing that a friend or relation. But if a suicidal person feels that this would diminis…
Actually, that's the fundamental problem with this whole discussion. Stopping suicide means stopping people from doing what they want to do, literally with their own life, just because you don't want them to do it. With loved ones perhaps it's understandable, but what standing does some stranger on a crisis line have to try and do that?
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What I hear is that you would rather people just suffered in silence rather than drawing attention and inconveniencing you with their suicides. We shouldn't treat people like shit and refuse to help them with their suffering, then complain bitterly when they commit suicide. When this happens, it is our failure as a society.
Yes, the anti-suicide brigade is out in full force today. It's their decision. There are myriad reasons someone may want to end his/her life. It's not the role of someone not in the headspace of the suicider to comment on what they're going through. It's astounding that so many people want to restrict the freedom of others to be released from suffering.
The suffering is too often imaginary, do you understand that?