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iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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I think it would be prudent to retitle this as "Apple expected to announce and demonstrate iPhone OS 3.0 March 17" or similar.

Or simply keep original engadget title with any editorializing: "iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th"

Engadget's title originally did not include the word preview, and hence was misleading.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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except for iTunes, all the requested features are already part of the Android SDK

Know what's not a part of the Android SDK? An incredibly clean interface with supersnappy response, auto-sync to my Mac and to MobileMe, and the ability to use the SDK on a personal music player (let's call it a "touch") rather than a phone. They're both good. Let's both be quiet and let people discuss the iPhone , not Android.

Android is a worthy competitor that's ahead of the iPhone OS in many ways (behind in others). A comparison between the two is not a bad thing.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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I'm holding out for any hints at what will go into iPhone 2009. If the 3G and 2.0 were any indication, there might be some new, hardware-bound features exclusive to the next iPhone refresh. They've done 3G and they've done GPS. What could be next? Processor/video/memory upgrade to support better backgrounding? Camera on the front for video chat? Personally, I'm wishing that Apple will make the phone slightly bigger,…

Somehow I doubt a significant hardware revision is on the cards. They have a good penetration with the 1st and 2nd generations. Bringing out a new model now would schism the app community (you need X to work with the 3rd gen iPhone).... This would be a pain, and I'm not sure there is a compelling reason/feature right at this moment. If anything, they might bump up the storage (to 32Gb+?) - although this might eat int…

They earn monthly revenues off of their iPhones, I wonder if they would really mind if every iPod user switched to the iPhone.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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Somehow I doubt a significant hardware revision is on the cards. They have a good penetration with the 1st and 2nd generations. Bringing out a new model now would schism the app community (you need X to work with the 3rd gen iPhone).... This would be a pain, and I'm not sure there is a compelling reason/feature right at this moment. If anything, they might bump up the storage (to 32Gb+?) - although this might eat int…

They earn monthly revenues off of their iPhones, I wonder if they would really mind if every iPod user switched to the iPhone.

Hmmm. Yeah - good point - also the appstore stream to tap into.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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Know what's not a part of the Android SDK? An incredibly clean interface with supersnappy response, auto-sync to my Mac and to MobileMe, and the ability to use the SDK on a personal music player (let's call it a "touch") rather than a phone. They're both good. Let's both be quiet and let people discuss the iPhone , not Android.

Android is a worthy competitor that's ahead of the iPhone OS in many ways (behind in others). A comparison between the two is not a bad thing.

It's not a competitor.

Apple controls their hardware, their software, their packaging, the computer-related software (and hardware, in some cases) and, in short, the entire user experience.

Android is a phone operating system. It's a competitor like Windows Mobile is a competitor, which is to say it competes with one of the myriad things the iPhone is doing.

A comparison might make for a good separate article, but when somebody says "I like these features" the response isn't "Well this OS" has it, because the first guy obviously isn't saying "These are the features I absolutely need." They're just things that would make the iPhone even better.

This is why, every time I see an argument over Linux GUIs, I don't insert how much better OSX + iLife is as far as Unix systems go. There's a time and place for comparison, but simply saying "Hay guys Android does this" isn't adding to the conversation.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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Or simply keep original engadget title with any editorializing: "iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th"

Engadget's title originally did not include the word preview, and hence was misleading.

Okies -- they might have copped the same thing.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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I would like to see a refresh of the notification system, and status messages on the lock screen, which I believe was hinted at a while back in a patent filing. Would be nice just to hit the home button while the device is in standby and see a list of recent emails, SMSs, etc.

On the contrary, please don't show a list of my info to someone when my phone is locked.

It would be opt in I would hope.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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Android is a worthy competitor that's ahead of the iPhone OS in many ways (behind in others). A comparison between the two is not a bad thing.

It's not a competitor. Apple controls their hardware, their software, their packaging, the computer-related software (and hardware, in some cases) and, in short, the entire user experience. Android is a phone operating system. It's a competitor like Windows Mobile is a competitor, which is to say it competes with one of the myriad things the iPhone is doing. A comparison might make for a good separate article, but wh…

How can you evaluate an SDK? Compare it to a different SDK that provides a similar solution.

HackerNews is filled with such debates, like Java Vs. Python, Tables Vs. CSS...

The features above were part of the Andoird SDK beta, Background processes have been around for few years in other mobile platforms, I can get excited if Apple will come out with a killer features that are unique to their platofrom (e.g. Bonjure is a unique feature)

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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It's not a competitor. Apple controls their hardware, their software, their packaging, the computer-related software (and hardware, in some cases) and, in short, the entire user experience. Android is a phone operating system. It's a competitor like Windows Mobile is a competitor, which is to say it competes with one of the myriad things the iPhone is doing. A comparison might make for a good separate article, but wh…

How can you evaluate an SDK? Compare it to a different SDK that provides a similar solution. HackerNews is filled with such debates, like Java Vs. Python, Tables Vs. CSS... The features above were part of the Andoird SDK beta, Background processes have been around for few years in other mobile platforms, I can get excited if Apple will come out with a killer features that are unique to their platofrom (e.g. Bonjure i…

I know they're in the SDK beta. But Android doesn't stack up to the iPhone in other ways, so considering this isn't an article about iPhone versus Android, I dislike that it was brought into the conversation.

HackerNews is filled with such debates, like Java Vs. Python, Tables Vs. CSS...

I also get mad when people ask for CSS help and other people respond with "use tables", and when people post to a thread talking about, say, Ruby, and somebody posts saying "Python ftw".

I love debate - I write copious prose blocks when Mac vs Linux comes up, though even that is beginning to wear on me - but debate has its place, and it's not here. No need to interrupt a speculative discussion with smug, as I said above.

Re: iPhone OS 3.0 is coming, preview on March 17th

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I am going to officially start the rumors for the 3.0 release: Copy-Paste, Push Gmail, Background IM apps, and wireless iTunes sync. This is really just my personal wishlist, but if the rumors spread, enough people will be expecting these features that Apple will have to build them in (since they're already so receptive to external input). It's a self fulfilling prophecy!

Add video in there and I'll help your cause.

Wouldn't that drain the battery too fast?
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