I went to school with their relative in Russia.
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For 40 Years, This Russian Family Was Cut Off From All Human Contact
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn't just "a bit Crocodile Dundee" - it is a genuine and persisting phenomenon (which happened to be mentioned in Crocodile Dundee). Indigenous Australians to this day have very different beliefs about photography and filmography than most hn users would. Even though many of them live fairly modern lifestyles, it is considered fairly offensive in their culture to show images of people who have since passed away.…
This is actually common in many cultures. In South-East Asia I have heard this many times, that people have/had this belief that taking pictures of them "steal their souls". You can see it mentioned in a movie from Wong Kar Wai, Chungking Express, if I remember correctly, when the protagonist talks about his father.
I've always been fascinated by what people could mean when they say this. I believe many people mean 'the part of me that thinks' or 'the part of me that makes decisions' when they say souls... but what could it mean for that part of you to be stolen? An inability to think or make decisions? Or something about vanity and getting wrapped up in images of yourself? Or fascination with a device that looks like a big eyeball?
It'd really be great to know what people mean when they say that.
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#203Can anyone spot the site on HERE or Google maps?
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#204Latest report in the Russian news. Non-speakers will have to use the crappy English cc. She's still out there and seems to be doing well. She now has a neighbor whom she visits once a week to listen to the radio.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Both you and greghinch seem to have a very negative association with that word. Maybe having grown up in the church, I don't see that word from the same angle as the two of you.
Well removing the emotion it's just a very inaccurate way to describe what appears to be happening.
I believe you misread- he's saying she's writing to the church to ask someone to join her. The audience is clear- the post is on the church website for church members to read. He's not trying to say that she's doing the much harder task of recruiting someone to the church and also to live with her.
> trying to recruit church followers to live in the mountains with her
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#206It would be cool to isolate yourself just to return and be blown away by all the technological advancements made. Probably not worth it overall though.
I spent two years camping and hiking in remote parts of Central and South America, and on the plane on the way home I genuinely thought I was looking at the future when I saw my first iPad.
I thought (and think) that and I was around the whole time. Then I set a few up, and realised that until the password situation is resolved, we're stuck with the present.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 'steal her soul.' That's a bit Crocodile Dundee isn't it?
It isn't just "a bit Crocodile Dundee" - it is a genuine and persisting phenomenon (which happened to be mentioned in Crocodile Dundee). Indigenous Australians to this day have very different beliefs about photography and filmography than most hn users would. Even though many of them live fairly modern lifestyles, it is considered fairly offensive in their culture to show images of people who have since passed away.…
It's not about images in Indigenous Australians.
Many Australian tribes don't name the dead by first name [1, 2], as a sign of respect and because it's too painful for the family. The no-images-rule has just very recently been derived from that practice. It isn't about photography or filmography, it's about names only.
1: http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/mou... 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_avoidanc...
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Both you and greghinch seem to have a very negative association with that word. Maybe having grown up in the church, I don't see that word from the same angle as the two of you.
'Recruit' implies asking people to adopt her religion, as opposed to asking existing believers for assistance.
Recruiting implies asking people to join an army. If we're talking about religion, "converting" is the more common verb.
She's recruiting (enlisting) a willing church member to a difficult task.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I took an opinion poll (appropriately administered in, say, the US) on who has the more accurate translation of the original post, I would bet a large sum of money that the vast majority would say mine. Here is the juxtaposition of the original post and your inference by the way: > This is absolutely amazing. This woman is more of a man than any man I know, living in some desolate valley for all of those years now…
If you took an opinion poll split by gender , I think you'd find some interesting results. You, as a man, see it as a simple equivalence to physical strength, but do women see it the same way? At best, we can say "I don't know". So why not just use 'strong' in the original post, rather than talk about being a man? And I'm not sure what is wrong about my original inference. The story is of a woman being "more of a man…
Split it by age too - I think that would be a significant factor.
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#210> Old Karp was usually delighted by the latest innovations that the scientists brought up from their camp, and though he steadfastly refused to believe that man had set foot on the moon, he adapted swiftly to the idea of satellites. The Lykovs had noticed them as early as the 1950s, when "the stars began to go quickly across the sky," and Karp himself conceived a theory to explain this: "People have thought something…
It makes me a little jealous of the quality of sky they must have had.
wow, reading this and it's replies was somewhat surprising to me in the opposite way. I live in Utah, if I walked out to my back yard right now, given a little time, I could spot at least a couple satellites. I guess I just took it for granted that other places aren't like that. It makes sense now why all the rangers in the national parks here like to point out how dark our sky is.