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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by Corrado »

manojlds wrote: post #252
just_testing wrote: post #242

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Would you care to give some examples? I am genuinely curious!

For example, the "autosave" can be pretty handy. You enter some text into a tab, close sublime. You have no annoying dialogs asking you to save the file etc and the comtent is saved so that it is available in the same state when you reopen. If not for the save your ass by not losing work bit, I like it for not being annoying.

I actually use "autosave" as a temporary clipboard. When I need to keep something over multiple days but don't need it forever (i.e. big, hairy command strings) then I just open a new tab and paste it in. That way I can continue to copy/paste the command whenever I need it and as long as I don't close that tab I'm good to go. :)

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by ceol »

grundprinzip wrote: post #273
akirk wrote: post #239

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Did you once do a calculation of the price as to the percentage of the money it costs in relation to the money you generate using this tool?

Even though I'm not earning money using ST2, I'm still loving it. However, there is always a feeling about price. And I think 70$ is a lot. Compare this to 30$ for Mountain Lion, 99$ for Aperture 3 and 129$ for Lightroom 4. Does this feel right? I'm not against paying in general rather I want to have a good feeling spending the money.

Apple can charge $30 for Mountain Lion and $99 for Aperture because they assume you already bought their hardware.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by jcoby »

johncoltrane wrote: post #209
Stealth- wrote: post #21

Coming from someone who has never used or tried Sublime Text, how does this compare to Vim in general? It's taken quite a while to grow familiar with Vim, is it worth the learning curve to ditch it now and try Sublime? Are the two really that different? A lot of what I'm seeing looks like things that can be done in Vim, but I might be missing something.

I've tried it when the first public ST2 builds were released. I kept downloading new builds from time to time out of curiosity but I ended up removing it definetely a while ago. What I liked: well, I didn't actually like anything beside the ease of modifying/adding keybindings. Some of what I didn't like: * The whole UI felt wrong from alpha to omega and overly gimmicky: the whole thing relied too much on the mouse a…

The UI looks very much like a programmer wrote it. But I can ignore the gradients and the Soda UI theme makes it look more like a native app.

But the find panel is the sole reason I cannot use ST2. Every time I bring it up I can't remember what button does what. And then I get stuck in the panel and have to click to get rid of it. Or hit escape.

But if I hit escape before hitting enter it assumes I didn't want to search after all and scrolls the viewport to somewhere random. Even though the term I wanted to search for is clearly highlighted on the screen.

It's a very very frustrating experience and even my co-worker who uses ST2 every day for the past year or two still gets tripped up by the find panel.

If I had a way to import the TextMate 2 find dialog into ST2 /3 I would buy a license.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by bsg75 »

mnutt wrote: post #262
pretoriusB wrote: post #248

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> The flip side is, for long term adoption, it pretty much has to open source itself. Really? I don't see IntelliJ Idea suffering much from NOT being Open Source. Or even TextMate for that matter, which still has friends even while being mediocre at launch and 7 years late to show any improvement. > TextMate was suffering from not being open sourced, and hadn't shown any improvement in 7 years. So he open sourced it,…

TextMate was suffering from not being open sourced, and hadn't shown any improvement in 7 years. So he open sourced it, and it is now actively developed by the community.

TextMate was suffering from a lack of development. Someone else took over development, in this case the community.

Had TM continued in its previous, active commercial mode, it may be ever more popular today, not having given alternatives a chance to in turn become popular.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by dkuntz2 »

shanelja wrote: post #205
mattmanser wrote: post #178

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Here's what I'd love someone to organize: A Kickstarter campaign to raise enough money to pay Microsoft to make Windows open-source. If Windows becomes open-source, that solves one of the biggest issues many people have with Windows, especially those coming from a Linux background. This is something I know I would pay for, and I believe others would as well.

Here's what I'd love someone to organize: A Kickstarter campaign to raise enough money to pay The Government to make Everything Free. If Everything becomes free, that solves one of the biggest issues many people have with The Government, especially those coming from a Poor background. This is something I know I would pay for, and I believe others would as well. Anything sounds ridiculous at scale

It's called true socialism. It's a perfectly viable political system, provided it's correctly setup.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by epo »

thejosh wrote: post #6

Sublime 2 is already perfect, I'm going to be very impressed with how 3 is going to go.. I'm also amused that he's now restricting the ST3 BETA to registered users only, where ST2 had a long BETA period.

I bet he wasn't amused by the number of ST2 users who got the ST2 beta and were using it without having got round to paying, in fact I'd bet this was the majority. The trouble with honour systems is that not enough people are honourable.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by tuananh »

bpierre wrote: post #253
AngryParsley wrote: post #161

I see ST3 bundles its own version of Python 3.3 on all platforms. ST2 did this on Linux and Windows, and it was quite annoying. In ST2, the ssl module is broken on Linux and the select module is completely missing on Windows. (See http://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/50801-bundle-python-ss... and http://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/149231-include-pythons... ) I started to port one of my plugins to Sublime Text 3 b…

“It's like TextMate, but cross-platform and not abandonware. ” This is no longer true since Textmate 2 has been open sourced. Textmate 2 is now very active, it is common to see a release every few days. See the changelog [1], or the activity of Allan Odgaard on GitHub [2]. [1] https://github.com/textmate/textmate/blob/master/Application... [2] https://github.com/sorbits?tab=activity

I went to check TextMate after reading this news and surprised to see TextMate is very actively developed. Hope to see TextMate raise once again!

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by shanelja »

dkuntz2 wrote: post #295
shanelja wrote: post #205

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Here's what I'd love someone to organize: A Kickstarter campaign to raise enough money to pay The Government to make Everything Free. If Everything becomes free, that solves one of the biggest issues many people have with The Government, especially those coming from a Poor background. This is something I know I would pay for, and I believe others would as well. Anything sounds ridiculous at scale

It's called true socialism. It's a perfectly viable political system, provided it's correctly setup.

Unfortunately, it's for the most part flawed as the correct setup you mention requires the human element to behave itself to maintain balance.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by thoughtcriminal »

tomlu wrote: post #251
thoughtcriminal wrote: post #229

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It's that kind of rationalization to spend more money that makes other people rich, and I read variations of your justification on HN all the time. A 2% increase isn't very good IMO. I'd rather look for other efficiencies that won't cost me more money.

I don't see what is wrong with that justification. Unless you are saying that he/she is incorrect I don't see why you wouldn't opt for that productivity increase, as long as (salary * perf_increase) > total cost. If you are saying there are efficiencies elsewhere for which that formula yields a higher number then you should do those as well .

I should state that there is nothing wrong with charging money for upgrades, especially if it motivates the developer to continuously improve the product.

And yes, you are right. Every bit counts, and I'm willing to pay for software that will help me. I just don't think it gets much better for me and ST.

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