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Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#51

Post by robomartin »

VeejayRampay wrote: post #34
robomartin wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah that's why that whole "job creators" / "we built this" routine doesn't really register with me. That's 'cause you probably never built a business from scratch. Believe me, not one person who has labored to start, launch and run their own business would make the comment you have. Not ONE. These kinds of statements only come out of a certain place and this is the same place that confused revenue with profit. Thi…

Sorry for confusing profit and revenue, it was a mistake. Being French, I was not brought up in a world of Bloomberg and stock markets, so I've obviously been short-changed on the whole business-venture / capitalism theory. My bad.

Are you serious? If so, I'd like to understand why you think that being French could alter your ability to understand business. There is no shortage of good French business men an women.

Are you implying that there's some kind of a cultural or educational element in France that might bias your views?

I am genuinely interested. I've spent a lot of time in other parts of Europe but, sadly, never visited France so I don't have any first-hand impressions to go by.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#54

Post by digitalengineer »

jadc wrote: post #45

Long time VMware employee here. While this is of course a sad event, it is not a reflection on the strength/weakness of VMware. Actually for a lot of my time here, we've had "carte blanche" in terms of hiring. The challenge was finding enough qualified people. I do think with the recent slew of acquisitions, the company may have grown too much too fast and is needing to reorganize hence this announcement. From what I…

When they bought SlideRocket it just fell dead in the water. Hell, I can't even add an RSS feed or embed some HTML. It's one of the top request from clients in the forum. (Paying client here. Sliderocket is great for out account managers doing presentations and keeping versions in sync).

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#55

Post by halviti »

waps wrote: post #38
homosaur wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I deal with them as a customer and I will tell you that everything you say is exactly the way their customers see it. We're begging to find a reason to move the rest of our stuff off VMWare. Their technology is dull and pedestrian compared to what some vendors are bringing in. They are very good at what they do but every time I talk to a person in the company it just feels like they are in maintenance mode and are bo…

What are the things you're migrating to ? I'm voting for VirtualBox, but I guess you could go with kvm which has slightly better performance in my experience. Care to share where you're moving to ?

The majority of their customers are corporate customers running ESX/ESXi, the only thing you could switch to would be Hyper-V.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#56

Post by rosser »

3pt14159 wrote: post #36
pekk wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are working to build a company in the US, you are building on top of MANY layers of the US infrastructure. Security, transportation, lights, banks, credit are all things in which the American public is invested, in the public interest. And any company of size depends on individuals besides the founder to do its work. It is not accurate to pretend that you are 100%, solely responsible for your own success, with…

Just because I was born in a public hospital doesn't mean perpetual claim on life. The government may force lower-than-market acquisitions for land in order to provide more prevalent transportation infrastructure, but that doesn't make it right. Other, freer options could have existed, but violence of the state impede their spread. I never signed the social contract; and food to slave does not entitle ownership. My u…

Is there a way out of the perpetual claim against my livelihood?

Yes. Leave.

Every minute you spend still here, you're re-signing the social contract.

If you don't want to support the upkeep for the society you've chosen to participate in, and continue to choose to participate in with every action that isn't making for the door, then don't participate. You don't get to reap the benefits of living in a society without sharing some of the weight of keeping it running.

You're free to disagree with how it's kept running. I certainly do. You're even free to take action (within the limits of the laws of the society you're part of) to change how it's kept running if you disagree strongly enough, and can present a better alternative.

But to begrudge the fact that you ante up some of your livelihood in order to make sure that the laws and services and such that protect and support your continued participation in society, which includes earning that livelihood, while continuing to participate, is selfish beyond reason.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#57

Post by chris_wot »

digitalengineer wrote: post #54
jadc wrote: post #45

Long time VMware employee here. While this is of course a sad event, it is not a reflection on the strength/weakness of VMware. Actually for a lot of my time here, we've had "carte blanche" in terms of hiring. The challenge was finding enough qualified people. I do think with the recent slew of acquisitions, the company may have grown too much too fast and is needing to reorganize hence this announcement. From what I…

When they bought SlideRocket it just fell dead in the water. Hell, I can't even add an RSS feed or embed some HTML. It's one of the top request from clients in the forum. (Paying client here. Sliderocket is great for out account managers doing presentations and keeping versions in sync).

They seem to be following an EMC playbook. Buy lots of corporations, shove them in and hope they work.

Given that EMC has a fair amount of control over them in upper management, is it any wonder they are having, uh, growing pains?

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#58

Post by chris_wot »

robomartin wrote: post #51
VeejayRampay wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry for confusing profit and revenue, it was a mistake. Being French, I was not brought up in a world of Bloomberg and stock markets, so I've obviously been short-changed on the whole business-venture / capitalism theory. My bad.

Are you serious? If so, I'd like to understand why you think that being French could alter your ability to understand business. There is no shortage of good French business men an women. Are you implying that there's some kind of a cultural or educational element in France that might bias your views? I am genuinely interested. I've spent a lot of time in other parts of Europe but, sadly, never visited France so I don…

Perhaps it was a language thing?

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#59

Post by sc0rb »

waps wrote: post #38
homosaur wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I deal with them as a customer and I will tell you that everything you say is exactly the way their customers see it. We're begging to find a reason to move the rest of our stuff off VMWare. Their technology is dull and pedestrian compared to what some vendors are bringing in. They are very good at what they do but every time I talk to a person in the company it just feels like they are in maintenance mode and are bo…

What are the things you're migrating to ? I'm voting for VirtualBox, but I guess you could go with kvm which has slightly better performance in my experience. Care to share where you're moving to ?

I expected posts like this to come flooding in. Posts by people who think virtualisation starts and ends with your efforts to get Ubuntu or Windows running in Virtualbox. Posts by people who have no idea what virtualisation in the enterprise is.

This post should be on 'shit HN says' but without the context it won't make any sense.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

#60

Post by garrynewman »

I tried to set our office servers up using VMWare virtualisation stuff a couple of months ago.

It was a struggle finding out what I needed, then finding a way to pay for it, then finding out I'd bought the wrong thing.

They have so many versions of the same product, slightly renamed, with slightly different features - which isn't totally apparent. They seem to have renamed products, but have the old version of the product next to the new version - so you don't exactly know they're different products.

It seems to me that they could benefit a lot from slimming down and offering just 3 products - instead of the 100+ currently.

I can't have been the only person totally confused by all of this - and ultimately it's got to be hurting more than it's gaining.

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