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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by Siverv »

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #52

Are these changes really worth the "3.0" tag? Goto to symbol is great, but all other bullet points taste like what I expected 2 to have once it left beta (basically, speed and not letting plugins crash my session). Isn't this a clever way to make users buy into a paid upgrade for a stable version of an editor they already bought?

The change from python 2.6 to 3.3 would probably affect some plugins, so one could reason that, by adding the "3.0" tag, plugin creators would more easily accept the need for porting.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by nimrody »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #7

Goto definition and goto symbol? Oh my! Quick test and it works fairly well already. Definitely some enhancements I want (text preview) but I can already tell this will be a glorious upgrade.

What about searching for all callers of a function?

This has been available (using cscope) on VIM and Emacs for ages.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by jmandzik »

cnp wrote: post #88
DigitalJack wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a good experience using ctags with ST2. Even on windows.

Can't quite figure out this goto definition thing, though of course I'm trying it using a dynamic language, JavaScript. Was praying he worked some secret SublimeText magic into it :/

I just tried it out on my client and server side JS projects. Cmd+Shift+R and type the name of your favorite function. Its pretty damn fast.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by thejosh »

rogerbinns wrote: post #77
psykotic wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that what's I was describing. It works just fine. When I tab back to Sublime, I get the " has changed on disk. Do you want to reload it?" modal dialog box. (If there are no unsaved changes in the Sublime buffer that could be clobbered, it just reloads the file silently as you'd expect.)

It didn't work when I tried a few weeks ago. I am running on Linux.

Works fine on Linux/Windows when ever something changes on both..

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by SquareWheel »

xaa wrote: post #55
adharmad wrote: post #49

"When 3.0 is released, upgrades will be available for $30, or $15 for users who have purchased recently." Why different prices based on when the purchase date?

So that people feel less screwed about the fact that they are paying for the same product repeatedly.

I bought it when Sublime Text 2 came out of Beta, which wasn't all that long ago, was it? As somebody that very rarely buys tools, it's hard not to feel a little incensed.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by jiggy2011 »

rogerbinns wrote: post #77
psykotic wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that what's I was describing. It works just fine. When I tab back to Sublime, I get the " has changed on disk. Do you want to reload it?" modal dialog box. (If there are no unsaved changes in the Sublime buffer that could be clobbered, it just reloads the file silently as you'd expect.)

It didn't work when I tried a few weeks ago. I am running on Linux.

Works fine for me. Ubuntu 12.04 with an Ext4 filesystem. Perhaps you are using an unusual filesystem or working over the network?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by mikevm »

tomlu wrote: post #57

I am disappointed to see that Vintage mode hasn't really been touched at all for this edition. It's what is holding myself (and likely others) back from switching away from Vim. Unfortunately, development of Vintage mode seems to have stopped (the repository hasn't changed for about six months).

As someone who only used IDE debuggers all his (short) programming career, I was wondering, how do you debug without a visual debugger?

I've seen how GDB works, and debugging this way seems much less productive. You don't see your whole source code, and you don't constantly see the values of watched or local variables, etc... Is there a different debugger you use for this task when developing using only a text editor (vim/emacs/sublime)?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by forrestthewoods »

georgemcbay wrote: post #35

I'm a Sublime Text 2 owner, but the continued lack of a Linux/ARM build nor any announced plans for the same mean I won't be upgrading. It is a shame because I like the editor a lot, but if it doesn't work on all the platforms I use it ultimately has zero value to me.

Why do you need ST to be involved in building? I use ST for all text editing and then click the build button where ever it may lie - python script file, Xcode, or VisualStudio.

You do lose the ability to jump to the exact line an error is on which is a mild nuisance but nearly enough to make me stop using ST.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by account_taken »

tomlu wrote: post #44
Stealth- wrote: post #21

Coming from someone who has never used or tried Sublime Text, how does this compare to Vim in general? It's taken quite a while to grow familiar with Vim, is it worth the learning curve to ditch it now and try Sublime? Are the two really that different? A lot of what I'm seeing looks like things that can be done in Vim, but I might be missing something.

Sublime works better out of the box and is arguably prettier. But if you like modal editing then Sublime may not be for you. There is Vintage mode, but IMO it doesn't work very well. The differences are small but numerous, and it's very annoying when the behaviour doesn't match Vim's. Others have rightly pointed out that many advanced features are missing, but I'm not talking about those - I'm talking about your brea…

I'm in the same boat. I still think NERDTree, NERDCommenter, surround plugin, modelines and ability to use the same editor AND plugins in an SSH console is unbeatable combination. I can edit from my iPad with a bluetooth keyboard on my Linode VPS.

I really liked Sublime but VIM like a good pair of Levis' 501 never goes out of style.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

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Post by Zr40 »

jacques_chester wrote: post #87
niggler wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't hold your breath -- I felt the same way about xserve before Apple shocked us with the axing of the server line.

I am certainly concerned that they might give it the official arse. The only thing that gives me hope is that the Pro fits a small but important niche in the overall ecosystem: a system better suited for the developers of iOS applications than the iMac is.

What does the Mac Pro offer for iOS developers that the iMac does not?
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